Enough of COVID...what are you doing to the house?

Unless you use sona tubes on top is the only choice. If you pour concrete in the hole without a sona tube the frost will heave it out of the ground.

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Oh boy...Put in 5 posts already last year without the sonotubes.

I thought they were only necessary if you have an above ground section so it's level, or the soil is collapsing around the hole b/w the excavation and the pour.
 
Oh boy...Put in 5 posts already last year without the sonotubes.

I thought they were only necessary if you have an above ground section so it's level, or the soil is collapsing around the hole b/w the excavation and the pour.
They keep the frost from grabbing the uneven concrete and lifting it. There is a good chance they will shift. Concrete under the post work well just dig below the frost line and pour in 1 bag of fast setting dry then some water no need to try and mix it.

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They keep the frost from grabbing the uneven concrete and lifting it. There is a good chance they will shift. Concrete under the post work well just dig below the frost line and pour in 1 bag of fast setting dry then some water no need to try and mix it.

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Thanks.

Just looking at options for easiest post pulling right now.

Option #1 - 48-60” farmer jack
Option #2 - https://www.amazon.ca/VEVOR-Pullers-Lifting-Labor-Saving-Remover/dp/B0FWY5PQ38/ref=asc_df_B0FWY5PQ38

6x6x12 - $65
4x4x12 - $25

I much prefer the 6x6 though
 
Looking for a spot in our backyard for the above ground 14ft pool to go up this year and there aren't any 'great' spots but I think I found a spot I can securely place, and fence off easier than other spots around the yard. Plus this spot has the most sunlight in the yard which always helps.

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Red - existing fence
Blue Lines - need to install to protect from kids accessing when we're not around
Orange - decision between digging down and leveling out, or installing a few 4x4s and then placing sand / gravel to level it out. Want to keep it as close to the size of the pool to prevent kids from walking on it and it's only needed to level out the pool
Blue Circle - I'm sure it's obvious

I have a used filter I got for free, and now looking for a 0.75-1HP pump for the pool.

Pool is approx 48" tall so good enough for now. This setup would also allow me to keep the trampoline beside it and not overwhelm the whole yard to make it still usable.

Thoughts on the orange? If I'm going to dig down I'll need to start soon.

Next question....

Best way to place new 6x6 posts for the fence?

Option #1 - dig down 4ft, gravel, post IN concrete
Option #2 - dig down 4ft, gravel, concrete, post ATOP the concrete

Thoughts?

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I would be putting in a poverty fence and saving a fortune. Pound in some posts and use chain link. I suspect this will be used for a few years and then backyard reorganized again.
 
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