Enough of COVID...what are you doing to the house?

Unless you use sona tubes on top is the only choice. If you pour concrete in the hole without a sona tube the frost will heave it out of the ground.

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Oh boy...Put in 5 posts already last year without the sonotubes.

I thought they were only necessary if you have an above ground section so it's level, or the soil is collapsing around the hole b/w the excavation and the pour.
 
Oh boy...Put in 5 posts already last year without the sonotubes.

I thought they were only necessary if you have an above ground section so it's level, or the soil is collapsing around the hole b/w the excavation and the pour.
They keep the frost from grabbing the uneven concrete and lifting it. There is a good chance they will shift. Concrete under the post work well just dig below the frost line and pour in 1 bag of fast setting dry then some water no need to try and mix it.

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They keep the frost from grabbing the uneven concrete and lifting it. There is a good chance they will shift. Concrete under the post work well just dig below the frost line and pour in 1 bag of fast setting dry then some water no need to try and mix it.

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Thanks.

Just looking at options for easiest post pulling right now.

Option #1 - 48-60” farmer jack
Option #2 - https://www.amazon.ca/VEVOR-Pullers-Lifting-Labor-Saving-Remover/dp/B0FWY5PQ38/ref=asc_df_B0FWY5PQ38

6x6x12 - $65
4x4x12 - $25

I much prefer the 6x6 though
 
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