Sorry you didn't get the answer you were hoping for, but my position is clear.
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Canada Votes 2019
- Thread starter Mad Mike
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But the tech jobs! The innovation!
Clearly more important than Evo or Mike taking another safari in Africa.
Mad Mike
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In Canada 1 in 4 working persons (25%) is on the public teat, with an average salary of 55K (last Canada Yearbook was 2012). That compares to 15% in the USA. Another and another 1.3M Canadian residents are on welfare (3.5%).
Historically the tough times impact the private sector much harder than the public sector -- so I guess the answer would be strongly biased by who writes your paycheque.
It was anticipated. There’s a big picture and then there’s the “now” picture. One is shortsighted, one is for the longer haul. One is for short term gains, the other looks to invest.
I can’t back conservatives who are anti-science and won’t invest in areas that need it. So that leaves my particular choice a bit more difficult than some others.
And i can't back a tax and spend policy with no end in sight from any party.
I'm glad you`re taking the long view, if managed right it will benefit the entire nation, eventually. However, i do not have any faith that it will ever be managed right. So call me selfish, but i'll vote for whatever makes the next few decades of my own life (and my families) as meaningful and enjoyable as possible. I like safari in Africa.
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Mad Mike
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I don't see why you say they are anti science? PCs acknowledge the world is round, Darwin was right, and that climate change exists. They also know that gov't should be in partners in science, not competitors. If the public sector is doing research, the gov't need not do the same. Gov't research is necessary in areas where the public sector cannot or will not participate -- what's wrong with that approach? Scientific research in Canada is at an all time high -- what's not getting done... what's missing?
I'll bet the scientists working in universities, hospitals and in labs across country thanks to the private sector's bazillions flying their way might disagree with you.
Are you a member of a public sector union? It's a simple yes/no answer. No need to obfuscate.
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So how does one vote if I’m in a remote location during the election, and am also at said location during early voting....
Ways to vote - Elections Canada
Looks like mail or any elections office should be do able. You have over a week to sign up.
They accepted climate change science reluctantly. Some of them still don’t.
I know where the private sector money is coming in at our place and it’s not all from from Canada by a long shot.
Last time Cons were in government funded science took a back seat like I said. Funds were cut, grants didn’t go up. People where I work remember that and vote accordingly.
I guess that’s the difference. I’m relatively financially comfortable now. If I wanted to be truly selfish I’d vote for whoever was going to reduce my taxes by the biggest margin but I understand that my taxes, when managed properly, can go towards benefitting those less fortunate than me and help maintain a quality of life that we expect here in terms of culture, healthcare, scientific breakthroughs etc. This in turn makes this country into a place I want to live in. A famous quote goes “judge a country by how it treats the less fortunate in life”. I like that quote.
Unfortunately, this time around I don’t think the current Liberals are managing my taxes well in some places because they are PC obsessed idiots led by a trust fund image conscious hypocritical Instagram knob. So....I'm left with a bit of a problem. I don’t see the cons as being the saviours of the healthcare system and I don’t see them doing much for those who are sick or down on their luck?
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There wasn’t a question.
Mad Mike
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I think this has gone the way of flat earth.
Where did you come from? This country embraces diversity -- not just in the colour of our skin, also in the partnerships we make whether they be domestic or global.
I think most scientists and STEM workers would say the changes made were progressive. Canada certainly has more research and development going on now that the gov't isn't competing (inefficiently) with the private sector. How can you substantiate good jobs and the healthiest science/technology sector we have ever seen as regressive?
Oh i'm doing just fine and i want to maintain the life i built. I mean, you say it like myself or others wouldn't understand that? Obviously i do, i just don't have faith in those holding the purse strings so no thank you.
Canada is one of the best places to live in the world, period. I would know as i've spent half of my life living abroad. Time to stop the hemorrhaging of the public purse and as you said, give back to the people that need it. Imo, we don't get there by making $25 billion/year interest payments when there are people on the streets of our city.
Feel free to ask the less fortunate how they feel about that 800k statute btw.
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It just brings to light the difference of opinion and you get to the core of what people value. Most don't enjoy being 'wrong', so you get conflict. I enjoy the sparring for the most partI hate election season, it brings out the worst in people, if social media is to be believed, everyone on the left is a socialist and everyone on the right is a nazi
And, he obfuscates. It's like getting a straight answer out of a less smarmy Sunny.
So you're a member of CUPE or a retired/semi retired member, and won't be affected (as much) if the government keeps adding to the deficit and the economy tanks as your job and/or pension won't be affected, then. Got it.
Mad Mike
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Like you I spent 1/2 my adult life and working abroad. Canada, outside of climate, is the best place I have lived and that's why I chose it as my final destination. I worry for my kids, they are inheriting a wonderful place to live, but they also get the credit card debts their parents and grandparents left them. They are the ones being that will lose as social spending gives way to debt service costs. In Ontario we pay >1Billion in interest every month (8% of the budget), and 3+billion (11%) at the federal level. I often think of what we got for that money and what we could do if it was available for the betterment of the country.
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