pfbmgd
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BLM and ANTIFA app try FB and twitter .
The big giants just shut down all services for Parler at once . That was not an accident.
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What will become of Parler?
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The big giants just shut down all services for Parler at once . That was not an accident.
pfbmgd
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People that want real reporting . What do you think you get from the paid for by government media ?
I get biased softball garbage from the vast majority of media that exists by sucking the government teat. That doesn't make the vast majority of the outright craziness contained in the ET any better. In my opinion it is much further from the truth the majority of the time and not much different than reading the Onion to learn about what is going on in the world except it isn't funny.
So there was a conspiracy among three of the giants and not all of them so that proves your point? Yeesh. Can't argue with that one.
For better or for worse, that runs them into the same problems Canadian Tire had. Rapid scaling when you own your own hardware is difficult and hugely expensive. AFAIK, parler wasn't around long enough to monetize anything so they were living off of a relatively small pool of investor capital. When they had their explosive growth (>1,000,000 users a week being added) owned hardware could never have kept up. Hell, even Signal recently stumbled under growth strain and they have been around a lot longer and have a bigger installed base so percentage wise a much smaller bump.
Parler was running a web business on infrastructure that was not theirs. It is called the cloud but "the cloud" is really just someone else's computer/server--of course not an uncommon practice. BUT, guess what, put your entire fate in someone else's hands, expect to live by their rules or even whims. There is a lesson, here.... not sure if anyone is learning anything.
Free speech allows people to say what they want. Not to say what they want without repercussions. That is also a given.
The question here is where and on who's platform and/or equipment. In my house, my rules. Don't like it get your own house. We do not need big government deciding the rules in everyone's house. It is a free-market, these decisions all come back to the free-market and they may win or lose business based on their rules. Even this site has rules, break them and what happens?
As for timing, those crying a river of tears about it being a conspiracy, if it truly was they would have been cut off before the election. Instead it happening after Jan 6 is no surprise....
Free speech allows people to say what they want. Not to say what they want without repercussions. That is also a given.
The question here is where and on who's platform and/or equipment. In my house, my rules. Don't like it get your own house. We do not need big government deciding the rules in everyone's house. It is a free-market, these decisions all come back to the free-market and they may win or lose business based on their rules. Even this site has rules, break them and what happens?
As for timing, those crying a river of tears about it being a conspiracy, if it truly was they would have been cut off before the election. Instead it happening after Jan 6 is no surprise....
pfbmgd
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You need to open your eyes. When the big three control what you see . You have no free speech .
Except the overwhelming costs.
As a reality check, Twitter didn't turn it's first profit until 2017, 11 years after it was born. Before then it lost billions and billions of dollars, kept afloat only by investors, most of whom lost a lot of money. It's now lost several more billion since mid 2020 when profits tanked again.
Now, that's Twitter. Even with all the advertisers they have, the eleventy billion users and the other methods they've used to monetize the platform.
Now imagine a hard right social media operation packed full of threats of violence, virtually unchecked radicalism, and generally being an all around cesspool. Add in the taint of being attached to the Capitol riots. The fact they have no functional app on either Android nor iPhone anymore is the cherry on top. Who's going to advertise there in any sufficient fashion to keep them afloat under their own weight? Do you think any investor would touch that with someone else's 50 foot pole either?
Their only hope in hell is a subscription platform of operation, but if there's one thing that's been proven time and time again, endlessly over the years, dating back to the BBS days...it's that people generally don't pay for that crap. Some will, but most won't.
I understand but it seems the masses are blaming the obviously biased tech giants for censorship. Seems redundant to complain about what a private business should or should not do. Host your own servers and you control everything.
Go re-read the words in the post.
Free speech is not what you seem to think it is. The two things you're connecting aren't even on the same page, that aside.
Go yell on the street corner about how you feel Trudeau is a braindead traitor jerkface or whatever other political rant you want to yell about. People will surely look at ya funny, but you won't go to jail for it.
No one said freedom was cheap.
Relax
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Even if you're running your own infrastructure, you're still at the mercy of your ISP, domain registrar, and electricity provider. Just ask those pirate web sites.
So run the severs offshore. Plenty of those big pirate sites have been generating money for a decade or more.
They're getting that worked out already, they've found a home in the same place as Gab (the other hard right "free speech platform") cesspool is on.
Birds of a feather, flock together.
Gab has 3m users. They figure Parler had around the same active users when it died. Gab reportedly struggles to make any money as they've been blacklisted by pretty much every company that has anything to do with credit cards. Even GoDaddy banned them from their servers, and if you know anything about GoDaddy, well....that says a lot.
Twitter has 330m active monthly users. And they can't make money.
Gab just had to spend a lot of money scaling up. We'll see if they stay afloat.
Wait, Parler was a for-profit service? LOL
AWS definitely isn't the only way to host something connected to the internet. Kinda seems like they aren't trying very hard to solve their own problem
AWS definitely isn't the only way to host something connected to the internet. Kinda seems like they aren't trying very hard to solve their own problem
bigpoppa
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big three, are we talking trudeau, hillary and soros?
pfbmgd
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Are you twelve ? You are starting to post like a twelve year old at a playground .
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