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Motorcycle Safety Certificate Checklist (Ontario)?

650Tech

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You would be surprised with what technically passes. This is why some techs will pass vehicles easier than others. Most techs add in a little bit of common sense and even though something can pass by the book they will still fail it because in reality is unsafe.
 

TK4

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Let common sense prevail - if the bike needs work get it done BEFORE you take it in for the safety.
No self-respecting tech is going to put his licence (and the shop's) on the line.
There were people out there writing dirty safeties and they had their tickets pulled - rightfully so.
 

Torren

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Edit: If the repairs are completed within 36 days, by anyone, the shop cannot charge to reinspect the vehicle, though some do.
Edit2: The shop's cost is $5.1 per safety form.
20 years ago when I was still an apprentice a book of 10 safety certificates cost $125 so $12.50 each and you had to pick them up in person in St. Catherines.
 

regder

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20 years ago when I was still an apprentice a book of 10 safety certificates cost $125 so $12.50 each and you had to pick them up in person in St. Catherines.

It's 20/book, costing $102/book now. Can order by mail, but no online ordering yet.
 

regder

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You would be surprised with what technically passes. This is why some techs will pass vehicles easier than others. Most techs add in a little bit of common sense and even though something can pass by the book they will still fail it because in reality is unsafe.

This is very much a grey area. Not sure how the ministry would appreciate vehicles being failed because of "common sense", when they pass the safety regulations.

I've waived the safety fee a couple times on vehicles where I didn't feel comfortable signing the safety, though they technically passed regulations.
 

650Tech

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A missing valve cap will not pass a safety but now that you are no longer allowed to touch a vehicle to inspect for holes, a frame rail or floor can be rotted through but if the rust is still on and a hole is not visible it’s a pass. I’ll stick with not signing when I feel something is unsafe whether or not the book says it’s passable. Guess it’s a good thing I work for a fleet.
 

regder

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A missing valve cap will not pass a safety but now that you are no longer allowed to touch a vehicle to inspect for holes, a frame rail or floor can be rotted through but if the rust is still on and a hole is not visible it’s a pass. I’ll stick with not signing when I feel something is unsafe whether or not the book says it’s passable. Guess it’s a good thing I work for a fleet.

Not sure where you get that from. This is one area where the regulations allow a fair amount of common sense from the tech.

Directly from the regulations, Under 5. Frame, Rails and Mounts, reject if:
  • - rusted or corroded to a depth sufficient
    to become weakened
Also nothing about valve caps. On tire valves, reject if:
  1. b)
  2. - cracked, damaged, leaking or
    inaccessible
  3. - prevents measurement of tire pressure
  4. - prevents inflation or deflation of tire
 

Torren

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It's 20/book, costing $102/book now. Can order by mail, but no online ordering yet.
Well son of a gun. Who would have something from the government would have dropped in price over the years?
 

teflone

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Question guys, I just restored an old 74 MT250 honda, how many and what positions do I need for the reflectors, this is the only thing Im unsure about safety wise. Obviously 1 on each side ? But do I need them Front and back (as in 4)? do I need a reflector facing forward AND back as well ? making 6 altogether ? Thanks!
 

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