Law Enforcement - The Good, The Bad, The Ugly.....

Who was in the wrong?

  • Cop

    Votes: 23 20.2%
  • Dude who got shot

    Votes: 33 28.9%
  • I like turtles

    Votes: 58 50.9%

  • Total voters
    114
In the US, every non citizen is required to keep id and present it on demand to any immigration officer, anywhere providing the officer has reasonable suspicion - 8 U.S.C. § 1304(e). If they can’t produce id, the penalty is minor - BUT- if you refuse to produce id then ice can hold you while they determine your id and immigration status.

Immigration is a federal law, states cannot change the rules or application of federal laws.
Non citizen. They're stopping (and shooting) citizens.
 
the sunshine lists would give those numbers.
The problem with the sunshine list is that it hasn't been adjusted for inflation for 30+ years...
It also doesn't differentiate what % of the money people are earning is a result of overtime.
I've been on that list pretty much every year since 1999 and I dont work a lot of OT...
 
The problem with the sunshine list is that it hasn't been adjusted for inflation for 30+ years...
It also doesn't differentiate what % of the money people are earning is a result of overtime.
I've been on that list pretty much every year since 1999 and I dont work a lot of OT...

true.. but if that interested.. you can learn the salary of the position and see the difference between base and the actual... might not be exact, but will be a good estimate.

Toronto Police Service Base Salary (as of July 2025)
Cadet in Training $72,307
4th Class Constable $83,952
3rd Class Constable $95,958
2nd Class Constable $107,950
1st Class Constable $119,937
 
The problem with the sunshine list is that it hasn't been adjusted for inflation for 30+ years...
It also doesn't differentiate what % of the money people are earning is a result of overtime.
I've been on that list pretty much every year since 1999 and I dont work a lot of OT...
It should be adjusted down. 100,000/year is >40% higher than the average earnings in Ontario.

Taxpayers deserve to know where their money is spent.
 
true.. but if that interested.. you can learn the salary of the position and see the difference between base and the actual... might not be exact, but will be a good estimate.

Toronto Police Service Base Salary (as of July 2025)
Cadet in Training $72,307
4th Class Constable $83,952
3rd Class Constable $95,958
2nd Class Constable $107,950
1st Class Constable $119,937
Let's see, back in about 2009 cadets made $55/yr or so. Iirc 1st class constable was about $87
 
Three Peel officers have been suspended as part of Project South.

Getting YRP to investigate police corruption seems like a wild move. They are near the top of the corruption pile. Maybe this is just eliminating their competition using the courts.

 
Three Peel officers have been suspended as part of Project South.

Getting YRP to investigate police corruption seems like a wild move. They are near the top of the corruption pile. Maybe this is just eliminating their competition using the courts.

As i recall watching; this investigation began in York, they were investigating themselves. And the trail took them to other jurisdictions.
 
Taxpayers deserve to know where their money is spent.

True, but I would argue that in most cases at least public sector workers are at least doing a job.
The real waste of tax payers money is in unbridled spending on useless projects that go nowhere.
Everyone thinks everyone else gets paid too much, well... then go do that job you're complaining about people getting too much money for.
 
True, but I would argue that in most cases at least public sector workers are at least doing a job.
The real waste of tax payers money is in unbridled spending on useless projects that go nowhere.
Everyone thinks everyone else gets paid too much, well... then go do that job you're complaining about people getting too much money for.
I agree with the first half of your argument. I very much oppose the second half. I'd much rather burn down the system than join in the grift. Your solution hastens the flush.
 
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