Enough of COVID...what are you doing to the house?

[nobbie48]

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Makes sense they service mining , literal thousands of pieces go into shoring .
Grading is a funny business , I’m a certified grader for hardwood veneer , ( and a commercial floor inspector but that’s a long story) , we employ a hardwood grader in our mill , that currently only processes softwood , and softwood grader is a different ticket again. The big mills we source from on SPF softwood use scanners to grade the lumber with an occasional look from an inspector .
FWIW all hardwood is graded unplanned, most softwood is graded when planed and many mom + pop mills don’t grade at all , they have an excellent idea what it is and it ships like that .
There are huge fights with religious community like mennonites building barns with ungraded lumber , municipal inspectors hate that . Problem is Hans has been building barns with his team for eighty years and his crew won’t use a piece of crap , your subdivision framer? He’ll use all the crap he can hide .


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There was a sad story from the east coast a few years back. A lumberman built a house using wood from his wood lot and mill. The house was so he could share his later years with his wife who had health issues. The municipality wanted it torn down because the wood wasn't stamped.

It was a nasty fight and in the end I think he was allowed to keep the place but it had to be torn down when vacated.

 

[oioioi]

I had good luck with barrina, Gary didn't. The costco shop lights have been popular recently.

Totally forgot I bought a handful when they were being praised on GTAM years ago...but they're the small ones, they may help...

Barrina update

I bought a 6 pack of 8ft Barrina lights for the garage back in July 2022. Took me a month or so install them.

I walked into the garage the other day and 4.5 out of 6 of them are DEAD. Not impressed at all

Over the years, a bunch of single led diodes went out on each one of the 6 pieces, but it wasn't really affecting the overall lighting.

Not sure what the warranty on these is, but lets say it is 50,000 hrs as I believe a lot of LED fixtures are rated at that.
Since July 30 2022 till now, we have lived through about 25,650 hrs.
My lights may have been on over night and during the day several time but that's only about half of its hours life span.

Not sure if I should fork out another $200 for another set or find something else.

 

[Mad Mike]

Barrina update

I bought a 6 pack of 8ft Barrina lights for the garage back in July 2022. Took me a month or so install them.

I walked into the garage the other day and 4.5 out of 6 of them are DEAD. Not impressed at all

Over the years, a bunch of single led diodes went out on each one of the 6 pieces, but it wasn't really affecting the overall lighting.

Not sure what the warranty on these is, but lets say it is 50,000 hrs as I believe a lot of LED fixtures are rated at that.
Since July 30 2022 till now, we have lived through about 25,650 hrs.
My lights may have been on over night and during the day several time but that's only about half of its hours life span.

Not sure if I should fork out another $200 for another set or find something else.

I’d ask them for replacements. I’ve had a set in my light garden and another in a garage that have been in service for 3+ years with zero problems.

Good luck!

 

[Gary]

Barrina update

I bought a 6 pack of 8ft Barrina lights for the garage back in July 2022. Took me a month or so install them.

I walked into the garage the other day and 4.5 out of 6 of them are DEAD. Not impressed at all

Over the years, a bunch of single led diodes went out on each one of the 6 pieces, but it wasn't really affecting the overall lighting.

Not sure what the warranty on these is, but lets say it is 50,000 hrs as I believe a lot of LED fixtures are rated at that.
Since July 30 2022 till now, we have lived through about 25,650 hrs.
My lights may have been on over night and during the day several time but that's only about half of its hours life span.

Not sure if I should fork out another $200 for another set or find something else.

Didn't ever see 8' ers, or I would have tried them too.
All 2' and 4' barrinas inside my house have worked flawlessly.
I've had more than 20 of both lengths die a quick death in my garage.
I gave up on them.

 

[oioioi]

Didn't ever see 8' ers, or I would have tried them too.
All 2' and 4' barrinas inside my house have worked flawlessly.
I've had more than 20 of both lengths die a quick death in my garage.
I gave up on them.

I am assuming that the recent heat wave may have something to do with it.
Garage is hot and I'm guessing the heat killed them.

I’d ask them for replacements. I’ve had a set in my light garden and another in a garage that have been in service for 3+ years with zero problems.

Good luck!

They were purchased via Amazon, so I am not sure how the 3 year warranty claim will work.

 

[Mad Mike]

Didn't ever see 8' ers, or I would have tried them too.
All 2' and 4' barrinas inside my house have worked flawlessly.
I've had more than 20 of both lengths die a quick death in my garage.
I gave up on them.

Wonder if it’s the cold? My garage is heated to a minimum of 62f in the winter, my others are indoors.

Mine are all 4’, the indoor set of 6 are gro-lights in a light garden (I only use that from Jan they May to start annuals for out landscaping.

 

[oioioi]

Wonder if it’s the cold? My garage is heated to a minimum of 62f in the winter, my others are indoors.

Mine are all 4’, the indoor set of 6 are gro-lights in a light garden (I only use that from Jan they May to start annuals for out landscaping.

Valid point.
I did notice that in the winter they tend to give off a slight buzzing and ticking sound.

 

[GreyGhost]

Wonder if it’s the cold? My garage is heated to a minimum of 62f in the winter, my others are indoors.

Mine are all 4’, the indoor set of 6 are gro-lights in a light garden (I only use that from Jan they May to start annuals for out landscaping.

My garage is attached but normally un heated. In the winter it drops to just above freezing. In the summer is it warm but not screaming hot as attic is insulated and ventilated. I havent had a barrina fail yet.

 

[nobbie48]

Fixing up the yard. A shared cedar board fence looked good when the neighbour put it up, Cetol finish.

I'm sanding my side and it's going well, using a controlled speed disk sander. Sanding should take a couple of hours on my side. The neighbour's BIL, a landscaper, built the fence and he put the good side on his family side. The good side has lattice work and with it being "L" shaped I've got the easy part, with the other sides having ten times the area, If they strip off the lattice work.

Question: Is Cetol still the way to go for cedar?

 

[GreyGhost]

Fixing up the yard. A shared cedar board fence looked good when the neighbour put it up, Cetol finish.

I'm sanding my side and it's going well, using a controlled speed disk sander. Sanding should take a couple of hours on my side. The neighbour's BIL, a landscaper, built the fence and he put the good side on his family side. The good side has lattice work and with it being "L" shaped I've got the easy part, with the other sides having ten times the area, If they strip off the lattice work.

Question: Is Cetol still the way to go for cedar?

I like Australian timber oil although sikkens works well for vertical surfaces too.

 

[mimico_polak]

Thinking of setting up our above ground 14ft pool but wife is hesitant due to young kids and not being able to watch them 24/7.

Any recommendations for a fence around the pool in the yard? Not sure if it’s required but may provide her with peace of mind.

also our yard doesn’t get too much sun so will need to warm it, but I know it’s in this thread somewhere.

 

[GreyGhost]

Thinking of setting up our above ground 14ft pool but wife is hesitant due to young kids and not being able to watch them 24/7.

Any recommendations for a fence around the pool in the yard? Not sure if it’s required but may provide her with peace of mind.

also our yard doesn’t get too much sun so will need to warm it, but I know it’s in this thread somewhere.

How tall is it? With many above ground pools, the pool itself can be the fence. You secure the ladder/remove things they can climb on and they can't get up and over the wall into the pool. Bonus points if you leave the ladder in the pool so they have something to climb on if they decide to be dumb.

If you want a buffer, any fence (even snow fence) to partition of a part of your hard and make it a hard and fast rule that no kids are ever inside that fence unless an adult is in their first. We can't realistically fence our pool to protect it from the back door so the kids aren't allowed to go out that door without an adult.

 

[nobbie48]

How tall is it? With many above ground pools, the pool itself can be the fence. You secure the ladder/remove things they can climb on and they can't get up and over the wall into the pool. Bonus points if you leave the ladder in the pool so they have something to climb on if they decide to be dumb.

If you want a buffer, any fence (even snow fence) to partition of a part of your hard and make it a hard and fast rule that no kids are ever inside that fence unless an adult is in their first. We can't realistically fence our pool to protect it from the back door so the kids aren't allowed to go out that door without an adult.

Never underestimate the determination of a four-year old.

 

[GreyGhost]

Never underestimate the determination of a four-year old.

I agree. No solution is perfect. It's all just moving the odds.

 

[mimico_polak]

Never underestimate the determination of a four-year old.

With the utilization of an 8 and 3 year old for support…

 

[nobbie48]

I've finished sanding my side of the cedar fence and it's been about a day's work to do the 50 SF on my side. While looking at finishes at HD I priced cedar and figure it would have cost about $300 to buy new wood, skipping the sanding labour. Was it worth it?

Keep in mind I've only done one side. The other side would be more expensive as it has lattice work.

My daughter has a bunch of deck and fencing and it's commando cedar or PT, as is, from HD. She likes grey and thinks her fence is un-snobby.

My neighbour has about six times the fence to deal with. I don't know if he plans to do anything but let it weather to grey. He's not a tool person and having it re-done would be very pricey.

I'll talk to my neighbour about his plans. If he's going the grey route I'll skip refinishing my side. At least mine won't have blotches.

 

[GreyGhost]

With the utilization of an 8 and 3 year old for support…

There are alarms that may be worthwhile. Basically the sense waves of someone falling in and start screaming. Hopefully they wouldn't be set off by wind or rain I'm the middle of the night. Worth looking. Another shift of the odds in your favor.

 

[mimico_polak]

There are alarms that may be worthwhile. Basically the sense waves of someone falling in and start screaming. Hopefully they wouldn't be set off by wind or rain I'm the middle of the night. Worth looking. Another shift of the odds in your favor.

I would rather just put up a hard fence around it. Think it’s doable and safer.

Found a few great examples in Poland where soft above grout pools are protected and also put into the ground.

Best example I found…

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[Jampy00]

Thinking of setting up our above ground 14ft pool but wife is hesitant due to young kids and not being able to watch them 24/7.

Any recommendations for a fence around the pool in the yard? Not sure if it’s required but may provide her with peace of mind.

also our yard doesn’t get too much sun so will need to warm it, but I know it’s in this thread somewhere.

Will this be a permanent install or seasonal?

 

[mimico_polak]

Will this be a permanent install or seasonal?

I'm ok with removing it annually...but would much prefer to keep it permanent.

Been a while since I looked into keeping a soft side pool and preventing damage during winter...but I know there are some that will keep it year round with just removing the water to the lower level so it doesn't lose the shape on the floor.

I'd be more concerned about ice forming and damaging the liner.

I have a stupid idea to actually borrow a mini-ex from @Scuba Steve when he offered it, and just dig out my own pool...but that's a ways away in the future.

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