COVID and the housing market

Damn. That builder was unusual. Normally the actual cost has almost nothing to do with the price of the substitution. I know one subdivision where standard kitchen cabinets cost builder ~$25K. If you wanted kitchen without cabinets, you got a $1k credit. If you wanted upgraded cabinets, it was easy to get a six figure bill for upgraded cabinets.
Way back when I was involved in That industry the smart money took all standard items and lived with them then had them redone in a few years. The pricing for upgrades was more than just getting the house finished and doing them on your own later.

Sent from my Pixel 5 using Tapatalk
 
Way back when I was involved in That industry the smart money took all standard items and lived with them then had them redone in a few years. The pricing for upgrades was more than just getting the house finished and doing them on your own later.

Sent from my Pixel 5 using Tapatalk
Smart buyers limit upgrades at purchase to things that are impossible to do later. Higher ceiling heights, deeper basement, etc.
 
Damn. That builder was unusual. Normally the actual cost has almost nothing to do with the price of the substitution. I know one subdivision where standard kitchen cabinets cost builder ~$25K. If you wanted kitchen without cabinets, you got a $1k credit. If you wanted upgraded cabinets, it was easy to get a six figure bill for upgraded cabinets.
It was a small builder, 3 houses at a time. He was very reasonable, likely because the new house market was not on fire at the time. The upgrades I purchased were priced at his cost, he even let us work with and pay Canac kitchens directly on the cabinet upgrades.

My only beef with him was that he cut a dozen oak and cherry trees from the lot with the intention of selling them. I freaked. As compensation he paid to have the lumber sawn and dried - I ended up with a few thousand board feet of furniture grade lumber.
 
It was a small builder, 3 houses at a time. He was very reasonable, likely because the new house market was not on fire at the time. The upgrades I purchased were priced at his cost, he even let us work with and pay Canac kitchens directly on the cabinet upgrades.

My only beef with him was that he cut a dozen oak and cherry trees from the lot with the intention of selling them. I freaked. As compensation he paid to have the lumber sawn and dried - I ended up with a few thousand board feet of furniture grade lumber.
I knew a guy in Ohio that bought a house where a builder did the same thing, using the free wood on site. Twenty years later he needed a new roof and the roofer found out the hard way the roof deck was solid oak and they couldn't drive nails into it without pre-drilling.
 
I knew a guy in Ohio that bought a house where a builder did the same thing, using the free wood on site. Twenty years later he needed a new roof and the roofer found out the hard way the roof deck was solid oak and they couldn't drive nails into it without pre-drilling.
That’s not uncommon in rural builds. Way back that’s how houses were built. I once owned a house in Sharon that had 2x10 black walnut joists and 2x20x16 floor planking. Those were the trees they cleared to build the house.
 
It was a small builder, 3 houses at a time. He was very reasonable, likely because the new house market was not on fire at the time. The upgrades I purchased were priced at his cost, he even let us work with and pay Canac kitchens directly on the cabinet upgrades.

My only beef with him was that he cut a dozen oak and cherry trees from the lot with the intention of selling them. I freaked. As compensation he paid to have the lumber sawn and dried - I ended up with a few thousand board feet of furniture grade lumber.
When my buddy was building a 2000sqft garage at his cottage, he used all of the wood he cut to clear the land and made siding out of it. There was enough wood to install the siding on both the cottage, and the garage at the same time.

Looks awesome and it came out really nice. Not sure if he actually saved any money considering the wood had to be cut, milled, dried, and then painted (we all had a hand in that)...but the end result is great.
 
I found most of my joists have extra holes in them that line up. I wish someone paid for a string in them upgrade.
If I was building a new house, there would definitely be some large conduits running between strategic locations (with pre-installed strings). Terminations near electrical panel, in a closet on each floor, in attic, etc. Turns tasks that are a nightmare now to trivially easy.
 
When my buddy was building a 2000sqft garage at his cottage, he used all of the wood he cut to clear the land and made siding out of it. There was enough wood to install the siding on both the cottage, and the garage at the same time.

Looks awesome and it came out really nice. Not sure if he actually saved any money considering the wood had to be cut, milled, dried, and then painted (we all had a hand in that)...but the end result is great.
My brother was considering buying a mill to make his own lumber for projects. As almost everything needs permits and permits need graded lumber and rough sawn can't be graded, the project was dead in the water. He could make siding and wood for things that don't need a permit but it's hard to justify the cost of a mill for those tasks. Underwater forever.
 
My brother was considering buying a mill to make his own lumber for projects. As almost everything needs permits and permits need graded lumber and rough sawn can't be graded, the project was dead in the water. He could make siding and wood for things that don't need a permit but it's hard to justify the cost of a mill for those tasks. Underwater forever.
My dad had the bright idea of taking our old 100ft tree that was cut down at the cottage...and use a DIY 'mill' with a long chainsaw blade/chain...

It's soft wood, nobody wants it. There are 20 pieces (or more) of various lengths / widths at the cottage that I'm just going to start cutting and burning.

Waste of effort, time, and energy.
 
My dad had the bright idea of taking our old 100ft tree that was cut down at the cottage...and use a DIY 'mill' with a long chainsaw blade/chain...

It's soft wood, nobody wants it. There are 20 pieces (or more) of various lengths / widths at the cottage that I'm just going to start cutting and burning.

Waste of effort, time, and energy.
Make some rustic outdoor furniture. If it's awesome, sell it. If it's marginal, use it. Things like benches around fire pit, picnic tables, etc.
 
Back
Top Bottom