Carney drops tariffs to 6.9% on Chinese EVs
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sburns
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2 wrongs don't make it right.
Gaoler
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Mad Mike
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I don’t think it changes anything. Chinese EVs have been coming into Canada for a while.
What is a bit scary is there’s no tariffs set for exports above 49000 in their deal. Without a step up rate, any additional cars come in at the 6.1 rate ( MFN for cars. )
As for workforce implications, China hasn’t had trade restrictions until recently, just like their motorcycles, atvs, snowmobiles, etc - consumers aren’t ready and their stuff will need to prove it stands up to the rigours of Canadian roads, weather and dependability expectations.
FWIW, right now both the Japanese and Koreans each send us 250,000 import cars a year, 10x the cars that China can send, those numbers ding our auto sector.
Do we really have an auto sector right now ? Ford hasn’t decided what will be built in the new plant they are building in Oakville . Stellantis is a gong show , Honda and Toyota do what they do . GM has a history of thanks for the money , see you later .
I’m quite happy to see a Chinese EV, I think anything that makes Teslas life harder is a good thing . If they can create some support network for the vehicles , bring it on.
If the Chinese tap my vehicle they will find out I usually spill coffee , listen to XM satellite radio , and type to you guys. . World security is in no danger .
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I’m quite happy to see a Chinese EV, I think anything that makes Teslas life harder is a good thing . If they can create some support network for the vehicles , bring it on.
If the Chinese tap my vehicle they will find out I usually spill coffee , listen to XM satellite radio , and type to you guys. . World security is in no danger .
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Mad Mike
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I think we still have an auto sector, there were 125,000 workers in Ontario parts and asst plants in 2025.
There are about 50,000 Canadians that depend on Canola farming and processing. That industry was crushed when China shifted more than 1/2 of Canada’s production to other countries.
Canola for cars looks to be a win.
I mean, EVs aren't getting a big adoption.
One of the biggest adopters are the Frenchies to the east, they have better rebates if i remember well.
So out of the 50k yearly i'm betting we're gonna look at a split of almost 40-20-20 between QC-ON-BC and smaller numbers in the other provinces.
I think one of the big determinants are gonna be price.
They already have their tesla counterpart from a huge tech company,
BYD has been in business for longer than tesla and they also have Hybrids and production line that's already outputted a lot
I'm probably leasing this year, expense through self-employment of the wife's company, until i see how the EV thing plays out as the old V-dubb is approaching 300k, and while i adore that car (and a manual transmission) i have to be realistic. No car payment is the best payment after all
One of the biggest adopters are the Frenchies to the east, they have better rebates if i remember well.
So out of the 50k yearly i'm betting we're gonna look at a split of almost 40-20-20 between QC-ON-BC and smaller numbers in the other provinces.
I think one of the big determinants are gonna be price.
They already have their tesla counterpart from a huge tech company,
BYD has been in business for longer than tesla and they also have Hybrids and production line that's already outputted a lot
I'm probably leasing this year, expense through self-employment of the wife's company, until i see how the EV thing plays out as the old V-dubb is approaching 300k, and while i adore that car (and a manual transmission) i have to be realistic. No car payment is the best payment after all
Dirty Frank
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They will likely move their existing unsold inventory first, may be a spell.
I think it’s the Chinese doing what they typically do. Get their foot in the door and then the market demands more and forces our government to accommodate because of the overwhelming market response.
The Chinese also gain better market analytics from the products sold here. Where consumers go, how often etc. that information is priceless.
The Chinese also gain better market analytics from the products sold here. Where consumers go, how often etc. that information is priceless.
If not directly the Chinese , everyone is collecting your data if you help them . Start using Apple Pay or linking your charge card through an app on your phone , every nickle you spend is analyzed, where and how. Just walk around with the IPhone , somebody knows how many days a week you visit coffee shop x . What the Chinese may learn about me through my driving habits are not what worries me.
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Priller
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This is what makes me laugh when people get worked up about Chinese spying. The US tech giants are no less malicious, and have at best rolled over for, and at worst actively aided, Trump at every opportunity. As an Android phone owner, Google could almost literally know everything about me: where I go, what I say, what I buy, the whole package. Anyone who thinks there aren't baked in vulnerabilities is painfully naive. Zero click doesn't come from nowhere.
Considering their ongoing cheerleading for the downfall of democracy in the US, pick your poison...
Shaman
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All other things aside.... Trump was democratically elected.
Priller
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Not if he has anything to do with it.
And I don't recall the last time China openly threatened to invade Canada, or posted a picture on social media showing a map of Canada and Venezuela with a Chinese flag over it, or directly threatened Canada at a global forum.
A democratically elected leader who is far more flagrantly attempting to destabilise Canada and other allies at best, and literally threatening to invade at worst, and is actively undermining democracy around the world seems pretty threatening to me. I get that you have a lot of dislike for the Liberal Party of Canada, that's understandable. This is much more grave, though, and separate from party lines. Canada can't go it alone against an aggressive US that only sees us as a resource to be exploited. Both Canada and Europe have become almost entirely dependent on the US for almost every aspect of our modern lives, be they financial, technological, defensive, or commercial. This puts in a position where we are extremely vulnerable if they don't operate in good faith. Decoupling from that will take ages, and will require cooperation with China, whether we like it or not.
Shaman
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Don't be talking up China. They *have* threatened us over Arctic sovereignty. What they've done with bullying Thailand and Japan, jailing political critics, surveilling and using social credit to demoralise their society, spying and stealing IP; utilising slavery... I won't hear of any positive words about Chinese government, thanks. Not here, not anywhere.
I don't think that word means what you think it means. More voters in the US wanted Trump than didn't. Until he actually stops people from voting for anyone else, he isn't anti-democracy since ALL governments operate like they serve the will of the people, whether they do or not.
Incidentally, remember when Biden floated the idea that the Democrats were in a crisis and should be able to govern indefinitely? Pepperidge Farm remembers. Trudeau floated that balloon, too.
Absolutely, we are in agreement here.
That's only because they are much smarter than trump (as everyone is) and do it on the sly. They've been interfering with our elections for years.
Mad Mike
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That’s no different than a banks behaviour.
Give me a few bank statements and I’ll know your income, debt, free cash, alcohol and drug use, whether you smoke, or drive, and if you like whores.
