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Canada Votes 2019
- Thread starter Mad Mike
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J_F
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everyone is entitled to their own opinion
but not their own definitions
even the leftiest of Canadian lefty parties
support a free market economy with controls
and there is a big difference between socialistic and socialism
alt-right media has Conservatives all scared up and confused over this
running essential public services with public money ≠ socialism
Full disclosure: I do not like this man. He's a pompous nozzle. That doesn't mean he's not right.
Said this many times, Trudeau had a responsibility to pick the best people for the job.
bigpoppa
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And now he's getting away with murder too isnt he?
Blames it on his wife, who now gets to walk
Murder? That is pathetically weak. When was the last person involved in a motor vehicle accident charged with murder?
Rather than pick the best people to run the country and economy, he made sure to pick an equal number of men and woman, because 2015. Virtue-signalling clown that he is.
Maybe its fake news but its been reported that 2.25m has been paid to that woman for an NDA.
Here we have a man who was parading around in blackface. Who, from what I can tell, was a womanizer. Whos pinky finger is practically resting on a womans breast in a photograph. Who has been accused of groping. Seems like he had quite the life in his younger days.
Yet he has the nerve to criticize men. To say that "there are gender impacts when you bring construction workers into a rural area. There are social impacts because they’re mostly male construction workers". He is basically implying that construction workers are pigs or sexual deviants.
The ideologies he supports are anti-men, believe all woman, anti-masculinity, anti-free speech etc etc.
I am a centrist and I cannot stand him. Him and his supporters are all frauds.
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Mad Mike
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Yes, however using a 19th century definition of Marxist style authoritarian socialism from an Internet dictionary is a bit misleading don't you think?
Modern Socialist systems are divided into non-market and market form. Market form tend to be democratic, Bernie Sanders, most Nordic gov'ts, and the NDP are examples of market-form socialists. They believe in market prices, support the profit motive, however they will favor socially owned enterprises and have a strong desire to socialize things that can be better done by the private sector. They are not anti-capitalist however they do seek measures that break with capitalism, particularly by operating large state enterprises as these are key tools for redistributing wealth.
Running essential public services with public money is not socialism unless it deprives a free market for existing or competing. Running any service that could be done better, faster and cheaper by the public sector is socialist. In Canada, we have many things that are socialist: most of our health care system is socialist, dentistry, pharma, and a few other parts of the health system are free market. Liquor distribution is socialist, fuel distribution is not.
They are all different types of capitalists. No party in this country is truly “socialist”. I love how that’s continually used to denigrate other parties by the right though. It’s funny. I remember visiting Bulgaria nearly 30 years ago.....that was pretty socialist.
Anyway. I voted early today. Did my bit. Absolutely no warm fuzzy glow from the moment though, it’s been a very long time since I can remember voting for a party that represented true, realistic change and a real vision of a rosy future for the country.
I’m with Brian P. I’m hoping for some kind of minority so that overall not much gets ****** up for the next few years. That should give people time to ditch the populistic figureheads and develop something akin to a decent platform for everyone. I’m tired of the tribalistic arguments.
Anyway. I voted early today. Did my bit. Absolutely no warm fuzzy glow from the moment though, it’s been a very long time since I can remember voting for a party that represented true, realistic change and a real vision of a rosy future for the country.
I’m with Brian P. I’m hoping for some kind of minority so that overall not much gets ****** up for the next few years. That should give people time to ditch the populistic figureheads and develop something akin to a decent platform for everyone. I’m tired of the tribalistic arguments.
Watching the news and Trudeau was losing his voice trying to whip up the crowd in Windsor (all 3 ridings are projected incumbent NDP wins). He looked truly scared. I think he's realizing that come Tuesday (as O'leary says) he's going to be "taken out behind the barn".
Action at the polling station here was brisk on Sunday. No lines, but a steady flow.
I think the polls are skewed. The "average" person isn't walking down the sidewalk in front of the CBC buildings on a weekday.
I think the polls are skewed. The "average" person isn't walking down the sidewalk in front of the CBC buildings on a weekday.
It was quite busy yesterday as well.
KINSELLA: Why I can't vote Liberal on Oct. 21
I was Jean Chretien’s special assistant. I helped oversee his war room when he won in 1993 and 2000. I ran for the Liberals in B.C. in 1997.
torontosun.com
Even though that’s in a rag I normally wouldn’t even wipe my arse with.....that’s actually on point. It is almost a cult.
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