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Anyone here a cyclist?

so im in the market for a used endurance bike, and am currently trying to decide between a Roubaix S-works SL3 with a mixture of Campagnolo Super record and record components and a Cervelo C3 with Ultegra.

I think the specialised is the superior bike but its also older, I have very limited experience and knowledge when it comes to road bike, so would like to see what you guys think about both bikes and how they compare
 
mbroyda said:
so im in the market for a used endurance bike, and am currently trying to decide between a Roubaix S-works SL3 with a mixture of Campagnolo Super record and record components and a Cervelo C3 with Ultegra.

I think the specialised is the superior bike but its also older, I have very limited experience and knowledge when it comes to road bike, so would like to see what you guys think about both bikes and how they compare
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Recent cervelos make me sad. They have come completely off the rails since the investment firm bought them. Standard fair where they maximize profit by tossing a great name on product with as little as possible spent on engineering and use lowest bidder factory to produce. Imo, the specialized is a much better value when new (and quite likely also a better bike).
 
Spend sometime watching Hambini on youtube, he has very little good to say about Cervelo, specially the BB. Echos what GreyGhost noted above. Not sure on S-Works. I do not agree with everything Hambini says or all of his conclusions from an engineering perspective but he does give a lot of detail in his repairs/reviews. At the price point for the two bikes some serious research is warranted...
 
backmarkerducati said:
Spend sometime watching Hambini on youtube, he has very little good to say about Cervelo, specially the BB. Echos what GreyGhost noted above. Not sure on S-Works. I do not agree with everything Hambini says or all of his conclusions from an engineering perspective but he does give a lot of detail in his repairs/reviews. At the price point for the two bikes some serious research is warranted...
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That brings up a good question. At what price point do you send a used frame for ndt(ultrasound)? Carbon is hard to visually inspect with confidence.
 
I've been riding more this summer due to time off and have been thinking of buying 2 bikes - 1 road and 1 moutain. I have a hybrid that does neither perfectly, but it does allow me to do regular road riding (albeit without the pace of the proper road bike), and green level mountain bike trails (the blues are sometimes ok but then there will be a nasty obstacle that my bike cannot clear - also doesn't help that i am still learning). I am thinking of buying a mountain bike first - so questions if you may consider:

1. Is it better to go with a dual suspension from the start, or start with a front suspension only?

2. can you get a good durable mountain bike for the $1500? I recognize at the price point i am looking, the frame is likely to be aluminum and have a single suspension.


Digression: I am not the only one riding this season - I go to a few bike shops locally for repairs and they're all slammed and (when I last spoke to them ) out of stock of that $1000-$1500 range for road bikes - I was looking at a road bike at the time, but have gotten bitten by the mountain bike trail deal.
 
mbroyda said:
so im in the market for a used endurance bike, and am currently trying to decide between a Roubaix S-works SL3 with a mixture of Campagnolo Super record and record components and a Cervelo C3 with Ultegra.

I think the specialised is the superior bike but its also older, I have very limited experience and knowledge when it comes to road bike, so would like to see what you guys think about both bikes and how they compare
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Cannondale Synapse
Giant Contend (or the old Defy aluminium)
Canyon Endurace
Specialized Allez is more "entry level"
BMC Teammachine (aluminium)

These are some options to consider when looking on the used market and the last 2 in italic arent as endurance oriented geometry as the others but they take into consideration the wallet lol
 
Covid screwed up the bike market so I have no idea what it looks like now, but pre-covid, $1500 for a used mtb got you a hell of a bike (carbon or Ti, front suspension, XT/XTR). Mtb's depreciate like rocks in the first few years (when I bought mine it was two years old and ~$7000 off MSRP). Personally, I have never owned a full-suspension mtb and don't plan on it any time soon. I like light and stiff. At even budget, a front-suspension only bike should be a "better" bike than a FS bike. Better is debatable depending on your priorities. In my mind, lighter, stiffer, better components, etc. I don't know if I would ever buy a used carbon mtb (or for that matter even a new carbon mtb). It's too hard to identify damage before a catastrophic failure.

Most road bikes hold their value much better. 1500 used to get you a decent used carbon 105 bike. With covid, I have no idea, prices are crazy.
 
Chaos said:
I've been riding more this summer due to time off and have been thinking of buying 2 bikes - 1 road and 1 moutain. I have a hybrid that does neither perfectly, but it does allow me to do regular road riding (albeit without the pace of the proper road bike), and green level mountain bike trails (the blues are sometimes ok but then there will be a nasty obstacle that my bike cannot clear - also doesn't help that i am still learning). I am thinking of buying a mountain bike first - so questions if you may consider:

1. Is it better to go with a dual suspension from the start, or start with a front suspension only?

2. can you get a good durable mountain bike for the $1500? I recognize at the price point i am looking, the frame is likely to be aluminum and have a single suspension.


Digression: I am not the only one riding this season - I go to a few bike shops locally for repairs and they're all slammed and (when I last spoke to them ) out of stock of that $1000-$1500 range for road bikes - I was looking at a road bike at the time, but have gotten bitten by the mountain bike trail deal.
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Like GreyGhost said in his reply, prices are currently crazy in the used market. With Covid bikes are in high demand (alternate to transit and people just want the exercise and have some time). Supply chains are also stressed for new. I see way more bikes out and about these days.

Even new $1500 (plus tax...) can get you a pretty good hard-tail, if you can find one that is. Vs dual suspension I see it as less is more, at the same price point new dual suspension just means they had to cut cost from somewhere else, lower quality parts and heavier. For most riders front is all you really need for XC, but it does depend on what terrain you see yourself riding. The industry is carbon crazy these days but a good aluminum bike will get you where you are going... personally I still miss my old steel (cromoly) MTB. I would rather have an aluminum frame with better parts.
 
Chaos said:
I've been riding more this summer due to time off and have been thinking of buying 2 bikes - 1 road and 1 moutain. I have a hybrid that does neither perfectly, but it does allow me to do regular road riding (albeit without the pace of the proper road bike), and green level mountain bike trails (the blues are sometimes ok but then there will be a nasty obstacle that my bike cannot clear - also doesn't help that i am still learning). I am thinking of buying a mountain bike first - so questions if you may consider:

1. Is it better to go with a dual suspension from the start, or start with a front suspension only?

2. can you get a good durable mountain bike for the $1500? I recognize at the price point i am looking, the frame is likely to be aluminum and have a single suspension.


Digression: I am not the only one riding this season - I go to a few bike shops locally for repairs and they're all slammed and (when I last spoke to them ) out of stock of that $1000-$1500 range for road bikes - I was looking at a road bike at the time, but have gotten bitten by the mountain bike trail deal.
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$1500 will get you a pretty decent hardtail mountain bike whereas that is sort of entry level pricing for a full suspension from a reputable brand. Hardtails are great for learning on as you can't just rely on the suspension to make up for your mistakes and they are typically a few pounds lighter. You also don't have to worry about the servicing involved with complex linkage for rear suspension - bushings / bearings / etc. all need to be serviced and that's not a cheap job if you're taking it into a shop every season.

Ontario is also relatively tame, there are very few trails where a full suspension bike is at a true advantage over a hardtail.
 
thanks for the advice all. I am going to stick with the front suspension for now. My moutain biking for hte next little while is not likely going to go beyond Southern Ontario, so it sounds like the the front suspension is sufficient. now let us see what is out there...
 
Chaos said:
thanks for the advice all. I am going to stick with the front suspension for now. My moutain biking for hte next little while is not likely going to go beyond Southern Ontario, so it sounds like the the front suspension is sufficient. now let us see what is out there...
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You have a decent budget, see if FMJ has any old school cool bikes he is willing to part with. Real men ride rigid.
 
My wife has this Louis Garneau road bike circa 2005. She bought it brand new and I think it was worth somewhere around $1500-$1700.
It is an aluminum frame and carbon seat post and forks. It has basic Shimano parts and Ultegra rear derailleur. She rode it for one season to train for and complete the Lake Placid Ironman, so maybe around 2000km outdoors and maybe around 1000km indoors on the trainer. It is a 52cm frame.

Someone wants to buy it off her, but we have no clue what is a fair price for these and couldn't really find anything to compare it to on Kijiji. Don't mind the pedals - we just put them on so it could tested for fitment.

Any thoughts on what this thing is worth?

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Didn't think I'd ever pop into this thread, but....

Leading a ride with 14 bikes this eve. Group gets split up at a red light, so myself and the front 2 or 3 bikes pull over onto the shoulder to allow the second half of the group to rejoin us after the light turned. Apparently I failed to notice said spot was a bike lane.

Guy in full speedo gear on a race bike pulls up and passes us as we're stopped and starts yelling at us "THIS IS A CYCLE LANE" as he furiously pedals past us having a hissy fit.

Group rejoins us, we pull out and end up beside him in short order. I yell out "THESE ARE CYCLES TOO!" as we pass him.

I don't think he thought it was very funny, but when there was suddenly 14 bikes passing him he wasn't so anxious to speak up anymore. :LOL:
 
crankcall said:
Its ok, he probably just thought you were a dick.
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Feeling was mutual, trust me. It’s not like we were parked there off or something.

Sure must have been terrible having his stride interrupted by 1/4 of an extra revolution on the pedals to go around us, I’m sure. Devastated his whole training regime, now he’s not going to make the olympics.
 
This is exactly why we have an issue with cyclists.
Instead of behaving properly and not parking in the bike lanes, we take the easy way, and call them names, when they call us on it.
Then when the same cyclist is in a group and riding three or more abreast, they do likewise, and so on, and so on . . .
If you did wrong, just apologize. That can go a long way sometimes.
 
Maybe the guy was being a dick but if you were actually blocking the bike lane with your bikes it was the equivalent of stopping your car or motorcycle in a live driving lane waiting for you buddy to catch up. Sounds like you didn't realize you did it, but a "my bad" was the right call. The other cyclist was likely frustrated (like most cyclists are) with all the non-cyclists blocking the bike lane, nevermind fellow cyclists.

Now if you were single file and at the "curb" and not blocking the lane, then all on him.
 
shanekingsley said:
My wife has this Louis Garneau road bike circa 2005. She bought it brand new and I think it was worth somewhere around $1500-$1700.
It is an aluminum frame and carbon seat post and forks. It has basic Shimano parts and Ultegra rear derailleur. She rode it for one season to train for and complete the Lake Placid Ironman, so maybe around 2000km outdoors and maybe around 1000km indoors on the trainer. It is a 52cm frame.

Someone wants to buy it off her, but we have no clue what is a fair price for these and couldn't really find anything to compare it to on Kijiji. Don't mind the pedals - we just put them on so it could tested for fitment.

Any thoughts on what this thing is worth?

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Pre-COVID used bicycle price increases assuming nine speed 105 groupset with Ultegra rear IMO that is a $600 to $700 bike, it is in really nice shape BTW. Maybe less if there is a mix of lower end parts or eight speed rear. Today, I really don't know for sure other than it is likely higher as used prices have gone through the roof.

Hopefully you get some feedback from others here...
 
your group got split at a red, you pulled over and 20 seconds later the light changed. Worlds fastest traffic lights out there
 
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