Any GTAM'ers own an electric vehicle?

Well, it is an electric vehicle, so......

 
The Polestar 3 is available for a 12 month lease for $655/month and 0 down.

I was reading of $199 or $299/month leases on these in the US a year or so ago...ludicrous price for such a nice car.

As for dropping prices...21k off the ID BUZZ...seems like they're selling like hot cakes.

 
At the bargain price of $237,300.00
IMO there's a very limited market for EV's if total financial practicality is the only factor. For too many, they are subsidized hot rods for well-to-do eco warriors. I could never get the numbers to work for me as the EV premium took too long to recoup, worse if I got a bad battery.

A hybrid taxi / Uber application seems reasonable but my ICE only costs me about $150 a month for gas.
 
IMO there's a very limited market for EV's if total financial practicality is the only factor. For too many, they are subsidized hot rods for well-to-do eco warriors. I could never get the numbers to work for me as the EV premium took too long to recoup, worse if I got a bad battery.

A hybrid taxi / Uber application seems reasonable but my ICE only costs me about $150 a month for gas.
For the economics to work, you need to drive a bunch so the fuel savings offset the increased cost. A friend swapped an f150 for a lightning. Lightning charges off his solar (so charging is free if you look at incremental cost). His monthly gas bill for f150 was $800. His financing payment for lightning is $800.
 
As long as the subsidies for your ICE fuel is added into the equation. ;)
Not to mention the CO2 pollution.
 
Not cars but a watch.

My wife bought herself a cheap watch at Walmart because she liked it. It was $12.99. A year and a half later the battery died and the replacement battery was $16.00. She was going to buy another watch just for the battery but I found a replacement in my button cell collection.

So what would EV's cost if there weren't so many interfering factors like subsidies etc?
 
As long as the subsidies for your ICE fuel is added into the equation. ;)
Not to mention the CO2 pollution.
It is a valid point in that the poor can't afford to worry about climate change and the world is full of poor people. Many are dependent on polluting systems to feed and shelter their families. If burning a rubber tire keeps them from freezing to death in the next hour they don't care about the smoke. If they are starving they will kill the last of a species to live another day.

We will all die some day. Polluting defers the date by kicking the can down the road a bit.

Plastics are probably the biggest problem but look around and see if you can live without plastics including polyxxx paints and glues.

Now that I have finished my house with all its masonry let's stop the quarries.

Taken to its Nth degree we should be living in mud huts and walking everywhere in leather shoes.

Technology lets people live longer at the expense of the lifespan of planet as we know it.
 
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Taken to its Nth degree we should be living in mud huts and walking everywhere in leather shoes.
nah we can have a perfectly sustainable industrial/technological civilization with todays technology...without destroying climate or biome. It's getting there tho not without headwinds from the troglodytes .
If all the Norwegians can opt for EVs..and are ...so can Canadians.
 
nah we can have a perfectly sustainable industrial/technological civilization with todays technology...without destroying climate or biome. It's getting there tho not without headwinds from the troglodytes .

So you started to practice what you pontificate and sold (or better, crushed) your motorcycles? You don't NEED them, and they only cause pollution. If not, then shut it.
 
So you started to practice what you pontificate and sold (or better, crushed) your motorcycles? You don't NEED them, and they only cause pollution. If not, then shut it.
The problem isn't whether something will work or not. The problem is wanting instant solutions.

Getting gas anywhere was a problem in the early days of cars. If you could find it in remote locations it was stale and hand pumped out of rusty 45-gallon barrels. As sales improved, service improved.

Today, government interference in the free market represents a ton of poorly monitored money in one spot. Commerce and the stock market need profits and the lobbyists will milk that cash cow dry.
 
Dodge Charger Daytona Banshee EV Cancelled Before It Even Arrives https://share.google/0l6YqUUD50BDo1dTI
It sounds like it had some weird and expensive differences. 800V architecture is nice, but having it only on the halo means you can't amortize it over many vehicles. They should all have been 800 (or wait until next gen and make that 800). Two-speed transmission for an EV is a really strange choice. Extra cost and complexity with minimal upside. Was that chasing a stupid top speed? Tesla plaid can do 322 km/h and then is limited as it is not stable. I don't want to pay for or carry around a transmission that is only needed above 250 km/h.
 
It sounds like it had some weird and expensive differences. 800V architecture is nice, but having it only on the halo means you can't amortize it over many vehicles. They should all have been 800 (or wait until next gen and make that 800). Two-speed transmission for an EV is a really strange choice. Extra cost and complexity with minimal upside. Was that chasing a stupid top speed? Tesla plaid can do 322 km/h and then is limited as it is not stable. I don't want to pay for or carry around a transmission that is only needed above 250 km/h.
I enjoyed the headline the most.

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The volt is having a BECM failure right now. Taking it to the dealer Friday let's see how this goes it is covered under a 250,000 km 15 year warranty. Supposedly the new ones are made by a different manufacturer and don't have the same cold solder issues.

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