Any GTAM'ers own an electric vehicle?

[MacDoc]

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How do you think Marc coped for 60,000 km in far wilder places than Northern Ontario? Watch the channel and see.
ANYWHERE there is an electrical outlet he can get fuel. It might take longer but he usually charged while he slept and for free.
You take edge cases like the Trans-Lab and try to generalize about EV motorcycles ....not on.
I could say he rode through a flood completely submerged ....so what ...it's an edge case.
What Marc is currently riding is a sports bike - not a touring bike tho he showed it could be done for two years, also on a sports bike EVE - a sport Zero....even over the highest pass in the world.
Sure there were challenges but when you see what China is doing, they are leaving the rest of the planet in its dust as far as EV adoption goes. Watch the channel and see.
Other areas he rode in were far ahead of much or most of Canada in charging.

There are battery swaps for city EV bikes in several countries....I think Honda is participating in it.

EV motorcycles are coming ...solid state batteries will help, longer range due to density and lighter.

 

[nobbie48]

How do you think Marc coped for 60,000 km in far wilder places than Northern Ontario? Watch the channel and see.
ANYWHERE there is an electrical outlet he can get fuel. It might take longer but he usually charged while he slept and for free.
You take edge cases like the Trans-Lab and try to generalize about EV motorcycles ....not on.
I could say he rode through a flood completely submerged ....so what ...it's an edge case.
What Marc is currently riding is a sports bike - not a touring bike tho he showed it could be done for two years, also on a sports bike EVE - a sport Zero....even over the highest pass in the world.
Sure there were challenges but when you see what China is doing, they are leaving the rest of the planet in its dust as far as EV adoption goes. Watch the channel and see.
Other areas he rode in were far ahead of much or most of Canada in charging.

There are battery swaps for city EV bikes in several countries....I think Honda is participating in it.

EV motorcycles are coming ...solid state batteries will help, longer range due to density and lighter.

The problem is the simplification of the issues and assumption that solutions can be imported from places with different cultures histories and infrastructures.

A point, his bike didn't get charged for free. The place where he was staying picked up the roughly $2.25 cost of electricity. A dozen bikes on a tour would set the hotel back about $20 a day, over $7K a year at full capacity. Dividend demands by investors will not tolerate that.

Government subsidies skew the numbers on a crapload of things we buy and it's more blatant with EV eco issues. What would products actually cost in a no subsidies, no monopolies world?

Start with your morning toast. While I'm not aware of government intervention in bread pricing and supply (Loblaws take note), the milk, eggs, wheat and butter are subject to "Adjustments".

The infrastructure: It's a fact of physics that to put 50 KW of electricity into a battery the 50 KW has to come from somewhere else. It could be from solar cells, windmills, waterfalls, nukes.

Solar is the perfect solution if you covered your vehicle with cells and are self-sufficient. In a perfect scenario (humour me) one might get a fraction of a Kw per hour. That might get you four or five kilometers before you stop for an hour to recharge, less if you use air conditioning or heat.

Sharing charge points: People hog parking spots through ignorance, abuse acceleration lanes, block you in traffic to save thirty seconds. Why would we expect differently at charge points?

The infrastructure changes, costs, and inconveniences, paid for by taxpayers, are beyond comprehension. Can you imagine the Eglington cross town fiasco being repeated on every street in the GTA?

Don't get me wrong. EV's can be good but people need to stop with the BS about things will get better unless there is birth to death accountability.

 

[Brian P]

ANYWHERE there is an electrical outlet he can get fuel. It might take longer but he usually charged while he slept and for free.

In fairness, he's riding internationally (not in North America) which means regular plug-in AC power is 240 volts. The capacity of the standard european Schuko plug is 16 amps. UK wall sockets are rated at 13 amps. Even if you reduce that to (let's say) 12 amps that's 2.8 kW of charging power. For that bike's 20ish kWh battery, it'll fully charge overnight even plugged into a simple everyday 240V european wall socket.

And, once again, the decision made long ago to use 120 volts for North American domestic power supply comes back to bite us.

 

[MacDoc]

Nobbie> Government subsidies skew the numbers on a crapload of things we buy and it's more blatant with EV eco issues. What would products actually cost in a no subsidies, no monopolies world?

Yet you ignore the biggest elephant in the room fossil fuel subsidies.

$2.25 each to lure 20 touring EV bikers to your accommodation and in most cases your eatery as well?? Chump change.
International touring bikers are a rounding error on motorcycle sales.

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Don't project Torontos foibles with mass transit into the concept of affordable individual electric transport.

And yeah 240 volt grid a big plus.

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