Law Enforcement - The Good, The Bad, The Ugly.....

Who was in the wrong?

  • Cop

    Votes: 23 20.4%

  • Dude who got shot

    Votes: 33 29.2%

  • I like turtles

    Votes: 57 50.4%
  • Total voters
    113
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nobbie48 said:
A lot of the comments are supportive to the cop. It can be a S*** job.

If the DUI is due to job stress alcoholism, the superiors need to address the problem in a long term constructive manner. Unfortunately a lot of the senior staff are hard a** types preaching "If I could handle it so can you."

Of course the superiors never want to admit that issues rise on their watches.

If the LEO was just tipsy coming back from a birthday party it's a different matter.

Charges such as theft, assault and accepting bribes are not negotiable.
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This particular cop (Chris prout) was previously accused of targeting black people for stops and more. He has a history over many years of being the worst kind of cop. Protected every step of the way. He will continue to act with impunity until someone dies and they can no longer justify his behaviour.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ontario/comments/1qgjef2/onduty_opp_officer_charged_with_impaired_driving
 
GreyGhost said:
This particular cop (Chris prout) was previously accused of targeting black people for stops and more. He has a history over many years of being the worst kind of cop. Protected every step of the way. He will continue to act with impunity until someone dies and they can no longer justify his behaviour.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ontario/comments/1qgjef2/onduty_opp_officer_charged_with_impaired_driving
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It sounds like he belongs in group three, a different career.
 
A couple of guys from the group that were in law enforcement took what they refereed to as a lateral advancement to the fire department.
One was being fast tracked for management and was the youngest Sargent in the agencies history at the time.
 
Rob MacLennan said:
ICE agents aren't police and the scope of their duties is rather narrow. Before this godawful regime they would generally work WITH police, when performing actions away from the borders. Now they're being used like a private army.
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They are law enforcement officers, like US Marshalls and FBI agents. They can arrest people for federal crimes, obstruction, immigration violations, and any crime they witness. If it’s a state crime, they turn the offender over to state or local police.

They have challenges in sanctuary cities like Minneapolis, Seattle and Los Angeles because local law enforcement refuse cooperation. This makes it harder, slower, costlier, and more confrontational. When ICE doesn’t get support from local police they have to surge in a lot of resources to do the local police stuff - transport, holding, locating and identifying targets, as well as protecting their own officers.
 
Mad Mike said:
They are law enforcement officers, like US Marshalls and FBI agents. They can arrest people for federal crimes, obstruction, immigration violations, and any crime they witness. If it’s a state crime, they turn the offender over to state or local police.

They have challenges in sanctuary cities like Minneapolis, Seattle and Los Angeles because local law enforcement refuse cooperation. This makes it harder, slower, costlier, and more confrontational. When ICE doesn’t get support from local police they have to surge in a lot of resources to do the local police stuff - transport, holding, locating and identifying targets, as well as protecting their own officers.
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I don't believe this to be accurate. Can you source this? Everything I've read so far has them pegged as quite limited in criminal law enforcement capabilities.
 
Evoex said:
I don't believe this to be accurate. Can you source this? Everything I've read so far has them pegged as quite limited in criminal law enforcement capabilities.
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ICE agents are federal law enforcement officers with broad arrest authority under federal law (e.g., 8 U.S.C. § 1357 and 18 U.S.C. § 3056 for certain crimes). They can make arrests for:
  • Immigration violations
  • Crimes committed in their presence while carrying out their official duties. Obstruction of justice, resisting arrest, assault on a federal officer, interfering with federal officers
  • any federal crimes they discover in the scope of their normal work. Common are contraband smuggling, human trafficking, drug trafficking, document fraud.
18 U.S.C. § 111 – Assaulting, resisting, opposing, impeding, intimidating, or interfering with federal officers while they are engaged in official duties.

18 U.S.C. § 1505 – Obstructing proceedings before federal agencies.

State-level crimes – ICE will make citizen’s arrests then coordinate with local police to charge under state law. Not in sanctuary cities.
 
Mad Mike said:
ICE agents are federal law enforcement officers with broad arrest authority under federal law (e.g., 8 U.S.C. § 1357 and 18 U.S.C. § 3056 for certain crimes). They can make arrests for:
  • Immigration violations
  • Crimes committed in their presence while carrying out their official duties. Obstruction of justice, resisting arrest, assault on a federal officer, interfering with federal officers
  • any federal crimes they discover in the scope of their normal work. Common are contraband smuggling, human trafficking, drug trafficking, document fraud.
18 U.S.C. § 111 – Assaulting, resisting, opposing, impeding, intimidating, or interfering with federal officers while they are engaged in official duties.

18 U.S.C. § 1505 – Obstructing proceedings before federal agencies.

State-level crimes – ICE will make citizen’s arrests then coordinate with local police to charge under state law. Not in sanctuary cities.
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I asked for the source! But fair enough, being federal law enforcement it would seem likely that they would fall into the same lane as other federal agents.

Can't see them being bothered to make citizens arrests for state infractions.
 
Evoex said:
Can't see them being bothered to make citizens arrests for state infractions.
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Not typically, but they might. Federal officers, while on duty, have general arrest authority for criminal acts they observe, similar to how a federal agent of any kind can act like a local police officer when witnessing a crime in progress.

Same in most of Canada. Conservation officers occasionally lay traffic act charges, open liquor offenses, firearms offenses, impaired driving etc. they are not police, but can do those things.
 
Legalities are a moot point when you're dealing with armed psychopaths supported by an orangutan with an endless supply of presidential orders.

Motorcyclist: "I have the right of way"

Car driver: "I have a bad attitude and a two ton 1970 Buick with massive bumpers."
 
POWERMAN said:
www.ctvnews.ca

Ontario judge releases convicted sex-trafficker, dog killer following ‘torture’ at notorious Toronto-area jail

An Ontario Superior Court judge has released a 36-year-old man convicted of sex-trafficking eight vulnerable women over nearly a decade after he was found to have endured tortuous conditions while in custody at Maplehurst jail.
www.ctvnews.ca www.ctvnews.ca
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Look up who was that scums attorney, if you ever get caught dead bang guilty that would be who you will want representing you for sure....
Just keep thinking I love my country,I love my country.
 
Dirty Frank said:
Look up who was that scums attorney, if you ever get caught dead bang guilty that would be who you will want representing you for sure....
Just keep thinking I love my country,I love my country.
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"You abused many children for years but you got cold in jail so we'll call it even." Fantastic. The system has collapsed completely. "Rights" of dirtbags far exceed the safety of innocent victims.
 
Rob MacLennan said:
Sure looks like it to me. East side.

maps.app.goo.gl

Street View of Maplehurst Correctional Complex · Google Maps

661 Martin St, Milton, ON L9T 2Y3
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Entrance to MH faces West..
The pic in the article is Unit two of the VCFW.

Not that it matters... 'Media often just pull stock photos to illustrate their articles. As well they use stock phrasing which is factually incorrect...
Like when they say "the suspect remains in police custody" when in fact... They are not.
They are in custody of the lovely staff at Maplehurst. aka the Milton Hilton... or... Miltonimo Bay
 
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Gaoler said:
Entrance to MH faces West..
The pic in the article is Unit two of the VCFW.

Not that it matters... 'Media often just pull stock photos to illustrate their articles. As well they use stock phrasing which is factually incorrect...
Like when they say "the suspect remains in police custody" when in fact... They are not.
They are in custody of the lovely staff at Maplehurst. aka the Milton Hilton... or... Miltonimo Bay
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So on the same grounds, but separate? Feels like a mistake that anyone could make.
 
Gaoler said:
Entrance to MH faces West..
The pic in the article is Unit two of the VCFW.

Not that it matters... 'Media often just pull stock photos to illustrate their articles. As well they use stock phrasing which is factually incorrect...
Like when they say "the suspect remains in police custody" when in fact... They are not.
They are in custody of the lovely staff at Maplehurst. aka the Milton Hilton... or... Miltonimo Bay
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