Any GTAM'ers own an electric vehicle?

I just love it :rolleyes: when I'm talking to someone and they find out I have an EV, and then they go on about how Electric Cars catch fire and I patiently listen and nod and wait for them to finish so I can hit them with the fact that I'm a 911 dispatcher for the Fire department and for over 10 years of dispatching for the Entire Region of Peel I have had exactly ONE EV Fire and it was because of a collision....and we get car fires like everyday.

Any hint of an electric car fire the news jumps on it, and people like this eat it up.
TBH most cars on the road today are so good that a design is a miniscule percentage of the risks. I'm not an EV fan because of the financial logistics.

SB, in those 10 years of dispatch you've seen one EV fire but everyone goes ape. How many died?

How many DUIs have you responded to? How many died?

How many cheap laptops have gone rogue?

How about those, bottom of the market, scooters and e-things? Totally unregulated. Now banned on the TTC IIRC, but you can drag them up to your 12th floor condo.

Of the EV fires seen on YouTube how many are repeats and how many are BYD?
 
Heads up to anyone interested, a batch of the one-year-lease 2024 Polestar 2's have gone back to the dealership Toronto, and they're selling for about $45k, most with super low mileage. A neighbour bought one (he works for Auto Trader and is a total car nut), and absolutely loves it so far. If we needed a second car, I'd be all over one...
 
Heads up to anyone interested, a batch of the one-year-lease 2024 Polestar 2's have gone back to the dealership Toronto, and they're selling for about $45k, most with super low mileage. A neighbour bought one (he works for Auto Trader and is a total car nut), and absolutely loves it so far. If we needed a second car, I'd be all over one...
Hopefully they aren't calling it a fire sale.
 
Heads up to anyone interested, a batch of the one-year-lease 2024 Polestar 2's have gone back to the dealership Toronto, and they're selling for about $45k, most with super low mileage. A neighbour bought one (he works for Auto Trader and is a total car nut), and absolutely loves it so far. If we needed a second car, I'd be all over one...
I like the look of the cars, though the inside screens look like they have massive bezels. Not sure if it every window open has the huge black borders, if they do it really makes it look like using an old tablet.

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With having a Tesla the last month I am sold on the FSD and would not a car now without it. I really wish there was some competition in this space with other cars.
 
Heads up to anyone interested, a batch of the one-year-lease 2024 Polestar 2's have gone back to the dealership Toronto, and they're selling for about $45k, most with super low mileage. A neighbour bought one (he works for Auto Trader and is a total car nut), and absolutely loves it so far. If we needed a second car, I'd be all over one...
In a slightly related note, the house I drive past often that had one of the Volvos that liked to catch on fire moved it from the garage to the driveway for a while and now it's gone for good. A lucid has taken its place in the garage.
 
I like the look of the cars, though the inside screens look like they have massive bezels. Not sure if it every window open has the huge black borders, if they do it really makes it look like using an old tablet.

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With having a Tesla the last month I am sold on the FSD and would not a car now without it. I really wish there was some competition in this space with other cars.
Doesn't bother me in the least, as I like having some screen real estate that's not touchscreen lets you have a spot for an anchor finger when using the screen on the move. It's not like the screen is too small, they're already verging on ridiculous.

Then again, I personally despise modern car interior design, with everything touchscreens and capacitive buttons with no tactile feedback, requiring you to take your eyes off the road to look at them because they offer zero tactile feedback. At least Honda learned from their mistakes and started putting buttons and knobs back in their cabins after a few years of irritating glossy smooth interiors. Industrial design should be led by function with aesthetic following, not the other way around.

As for FSD, I can't tell if the percentage of Tesla drivers that are terrible drivers is much higher than normal, or if FSD is just doing stupid sh!t. As an external observer, definitely has issues. On a motorcycle, I stay as far away from any Tesla I see as possible...

In a slightly related note, the house I drive past often that had one of the Volvos that liked to catch on fire moved it from the garage to the driveway for a while and now it's gone for good. A lucid has taken its place in the garage.

Were the Polestars known for catching fire more than other EV's? A Google search suggests they actually have a lower than average incident rate, but that's hardly exhaustive. My bigger concern in buying one would be the overall health of the company as a standalone product, especially with the China tax. I understand they may have moved production for the 3 to the US and the 4 to South Korea to dodge that...
 
Were the Polestars known for catching fire more than other EV's? A Google search suggests they actually have a lower than average incident rate, but that's hardly exhaustive. My bigger concern in buying one would be the overall health of the company as a standalone product, especially with the China tax. I understand they may have moved production for the 3 to the US and the 4 to South Korea to dodge that...
I don't think it was all models. One model specifically had a do not charge, do not park inside order. It lasted for months as they had no fix. I can't remember which model (or if it was polestar or volvo). IIRC it was small and curvy and red. Any pics I can find now are all SUV's for volvo.
 
Those Polestar 2's were leasing for $399/month for 12 months, $0 down. There was a post on Redflagdeals about it: [Polestar] Polestar 2 lease for $399/mo for 12 months with $0 down payment 12000km - RedFlagDeals.com Forums

It's a great deal if you want to drive a brand new car for a year, if you were to buy the depreciation would cost you much more.
That's the deal these ones are coming off of. They have a similar one for the Polestar 3's at $900/mo, which is still cheap but only if you consider the $120,000 base price reasonable...
 
SB, in those 10 years of dispatch you've seen one EV fire but everyone goes ape. How many died?

How many DUIs have you responded to? How many died?

How many cheap laptops have gone rogue?

How about those, bottom of the market, scooters and e-things? Totally unregulated. Now banned on the TTC IIRC, but you can drag them up to your 12th floor condo.

Of the EV fires seen on YouTube how many are repeats and how many are BYD?

TBH Vehicle fire fatalities aren't that common. Usually when it happens it's a Motor Vehicle Collision that has resulted in the car catching fire quickly after the impact and the victim inside has sustained injuries that prevent them from extricating themselves from the vehicle.

I can't say I have had a call for a Laptop Fire. It's possible one of the many structure fire calls I have had started with an electrical device but nothing I can confirm. However, calls for electrical fires (i.e. Outlets, recent electrical work etc) are very common.

E-bikes/scooters for sure we get those.
 
In fairness, he's riding internationally (not in North America) which means regular plug-in AC power is 240 volts. The capacity of the standard european Schuko plug is 16 amps. UK wall sockets are rated at 13 amps. Even if you reduce that to (let's say) 12 amps that's 2.8 kW of charging power. For that bike's 20ish kWh battery, it'll fully charge overnight even plugged into a simple everyday 240V european wall socket.

And, once again, the decision made long ago to use 120 volts for North American domestic power supply comes back to bite us.
Domestic power supply is 240v in North America. We run split phase for 120v. And for safety and legacy reasons the standard stuff in most buildings is connected to 120.

If one needs a 240v outlet, it’s a pretty simple thing. You probably have one or more if you have an electric dryer, range or big boy tools in your garage.

North America was electrified originally on DC at 110v. When grids got bigger it was changed to AC for transmission efficiency.
 
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