Winter stretch

challenger 12s are about $112ish at Hummasons , winchester AA about $128. 20's are the same i think. Right now with the cost of powder and primers way up , reloading only makes sense if your doing 28s or 410 for shotshells . Unless your a really competive shooter and you want xxx ft per second and x only 8 1/2 shot . Challengers are so crappy a hull you cant really reload them with any sort of crimp.
I'm horrible enough with 20g , 410s for me would be torture hitting anything .
 
Gaoler said:
Weird.
9mm is a pretty simple round to load.
As long as your OAL is good considering the ogive of the projectile you're using...
Maybe your dies where out of spec?
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More likely something I was doing wrong. Cases were fine, and even tried roll-sizing at one point. Could've been the propellant choice, but didn't have the patience to keep trying since the range was 2 hours away from my place.

Gaoler said:
Yeah...
'was recently thrilled to find crappy Challengers for $112...
At least they're made in Canada... elbows up!
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Eek, maybe I should look into a press when I get back into trap.
 
crankcall said:
challenger 12s are about $112ish at Hummasons , winchester AA about $128. 20's are the same i think. Right now with the cost of powder and primers way up , reloading only makes sense if your doing 28s or 410 for shotshells . Unless your a really competive shooter and you want xxx ft per second and x only 8 1/2 shot . Challengers are so crappy a hull you cant really reload them with any sort of crimp.
I'm horrible enough with 20g , 410s for me would be torture hitting anything .
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410001661 said:
Hummasons in Ancaster at one point was $55 tax in! At that point I put my shell reloader in the garage rafters. i pulled it down when a flat hit $125 +tx
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Never tried Hummasons, went to Lawry's - sounds like with the components going up it's not worth it still.
 
Shot shells are one thing, but man...
Pre covid I paid $26 for 1000 cci pistol primers...
Nowa days... $125-$135 per thousand
 
Good God that's insane, was it election-era panic buying hikes, and they never came back down, or just a steady increase over time?
 
so much powder and primer production (cheddite?) was going overseas from what I'm told. Couple small wars and the supply gets tight.
 
Eli Gand said:
Good God that's insane, was it election-era panic buying hikes, and they never came back down, or just a steady increase over time?
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It sure as ef wasn't gradual...Lol.
Who knows...?
'Probably a variety of factors including what crank' mentioned.
Supply chain, commodity prices, war... All conspiring against Gaoler and his ability to load ammo for his recreational recreation.
 
Eli Gand said:
I guess it's back to .22 LR.
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Actually....
I've been shooting a lot of rimfire lately.
IPSC "mini rifle" has taken off a bit.
Many of the pistol matches are offering up a mini rifle division... There'll prolly be some stand alone mini rifle matches moving fwd.
There's also precision rimfire...
And of course. The best rimfire shootin'...
Saskatchewan gophers !!!
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