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challenger 12s are about $112ish at Hummasons , winchester AA about $128. 20's are the same i think. Right now with the cost of powder and primers way up , reloading only makes sense if your doing 28s or 410 for shotshells . Unless your a really competive shooter and you want xxx ft per second and x only 8 1/2 shot . Challengers are so crappy a hull you cant really reload them with any sort of crimp.
I'm horrible enough with 20g , 410s for me would be torture hitting anything .
 
Gaoler said:
Weird.
9mm is a pretty simple round to load.
As long as your OAL is good considering the ogive of the projectile you're using...
Maybe your dies where out of spec?
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More likely something I was doing wrong. Cases were fine, and even tried roll-sizing at one point. Could've been the propellant choice, but didn't have the patience to keep trying since the range was 2 hours away from my place.

Gaoler said:
Yeah...
'was recently thrilled to find crappy Challengers for $112...
At least they're made in Canada... elbows up!
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Eek, maybe I should look into a press when I get back into trap.
 
crankcall said:
challenger 12s are about $112ish at Hummasons , winchester AA about $128. 20's are the same i think. Right now with the cost of powder and primers way up , reloading only makes sense if your doing 28s or 410 for shotshells . Unless your a really competive shooter and you want xxx ft per second and x only 8 1/2 shot . Challengers are so crappy a hull you cant really reload them with any sort of crimp.
I'm horrible enough with 20g , 410s for me would be torture hitting anything .
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410001661 said:
Hummasons in Ancaster at one point was $55 tax in! At that point I put my shell reloader in the garage rafters. i pulled it down when a flat hit $125 +tx
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Never tried Hummasons, went to Lawry's - sounds like with the components going up it's not worth it still.
 
Shot shells are one thing, but man...
Pre covid I paid $26 for 1000 cci pistol primers...
Nowa days... $125-$135 per thousand
 
so much powder and primer production (cheddite?) was going overseas from what I'm told. Couple small wars and the supply gets tight.
 
Eli Gand said:
Good God that's insane, was it election-era panic buying hikes, and they never came back down, or just a steady increase over time?
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It sure as ef wasn't gradual...Lol.
Who knows...?
'Probably a variety of factors including what crank' mentioned.
Supply chain, commodity prices, war... All conspiring against Gaoler and his ability to load ammo for his recreational recreation.
 
Eli Gand said:
I guess it's back to .22 LR.
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Actually....
I've been shooting a lot of rimfire lately.
IPSC "mini rifle" has taken off a bit.
Many of the pistol matches are offering up a mini rifle division... There'll prolly be some stand alone mini rifle matches moving fwd.
There's also precision rimfire...
And of course. The best rimfire shootin'...
Saskatchewan gophers !!!
 
Gaoler said:
Actually....
I've been shooting a lot of rimfire lately.
IPSC "mini rifle" has taken off a bit.
Many of the pistol matches are offering up a mini rifle division... There'll prolly be some stand alone mini rifle matches moving fwd.
There's also precision rimfire...
And of course. The best rimfire shootin'...
Saskatchewan gophers !!!
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I have a few 'spensive rifles but my 22LR semi-auto plinker is probably my favourite gun to shoot.
 
I've volunteered at CRPS before, it's crazy how they engage targets at 300m. Never thought it would be effective that far out.

I have a .22 LR pistol that I'm not too fond of. It's pretty finicky and even with Mini Mags it's good training on clearing failures. Light primer strikes, stovepipes, etc. I still keep it around to introduce new people to pistol shooting, but I personally don't shoot it much.
 
Hardwrkr13 said:
I have a few 'spensive rifles but my 22LR semi-auto plinker is probably my favourite gun to shoot.
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My most 'pensive stuff has been under house arrest for 4-5 years...:(
Although... I did just buy a nice over/under i can still take outta the house.
 
Eli Gand said:
I've volunteered at CRPS before, it's crazy how they engage targets at 300m. Never thought it would be effective that far out.

I have a .22 LR pistol that I'm not too fond of. It's pretty finicky and even with Mini Mags it's good training on clearing failures. Light primer strikes, stovepipes, etc. I still keep it around to introduce new people to pistol shooting, but I personally don't shoot it much.
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I bought a Ruger 22/45 Lite just before COVID and love that little thing. Cleaning it is a PITA but it shoots like a dream.

I'm with Gaoler - some of my nicest guns are in the sin bin but I did buy a Ruger Ranch to dent my .223 stockpile and transfer all my optics and mags to.
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