The bike isn't going to get better, or less damaged by picking it up. An overheated/dehydrated child, or profusely bleeding victim will both get worse without immediate help. What a terrible comparison.
What would YOU do?
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I know exactly what you are saying. I guess I'm a bit naive, but I'd prefer helping and risking of being blamed by some ********** rather than not helping and feeling bad for long long time.
Griffin
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That was the thing they claimed the damage was not directly related to the provided first aid.
I think I would have written a letter of response to their claim with two words "bite me".
My post was in response to yours wherein you raised the argument that people shouldn't help because they may get in trouble. My post was not specific to the dropped bike but to the comments made by some in this thread that people shouldn't help because they may get into trouble.
Now, regarding the dropped bike, if you're frail and unable to lift the bike that's one thing. If you figure no further damage is going to be done to the bike since its already down, that's not unreasonable. But, if you're a pussy worried about getting in trouble for helping out, that's something else. I'm glad I don't hang with anyone like that.
Depends on the situation, but I've seriously pulled my back doing a fairly easy lifting task. Nothing obvious at first, but I was bedridden for two weeks--which gets very expensive if you work for yourself. Plus, if the bike is anywhere near moving cars, being struck by inattentive drivers is a real danger. All for an insured piece of property that's already been damaged? Nope, that's irrational. Conversely, I would NOT want anyone risking their well being for my scoot.
Xhumeka
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I picked up a Vespa at Front & Simcoe the other day... it had fallen over and was lying half in the street because the kick-stand sunk into soft pavement.
It was definitely at risk of getting hit by a vehicle in the street, so I moved it 5 feet from its original position onto interlocking brick where there was next to no chance of the kickstand sinking in.
He/she probably would have been angry if it was just picked up, only to have the kick stand sink back into the pavement causing the vespa to fall over again potentially damaging something else!
It was definitely at risk of getting hit by a vehicle in the street, so I moved it 5 feet from its original position onto interlocking brick where there was next to no chance of the kickstand sinking in.
He/she probably would have been angry if it was just picked up, only to have the kick stand sink back into the pavement causing the vespa to fall over again potentially damaging something else!
it'll prove you had time to walk away....
Or show u felt guilty for knocking it over and returned shortly after...
True but i guess i dont think about me getting injured. I just act. Thats probably Naive but thats just who i am.
MzIndependent
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Good god I just don't get some people, when I lived in TO my bike was knocked over a number of times at work, at the grocery store, in the movie theater parking lot, even once while I went to vote. Of every time that I came out of wherever I was and discovered that someone had picked it back up and set my broken mirrors or leavers on the seat I was thankful. It was an 82 CB750 so defiantly not a lightweight, I figured that anyone who would pick that sucker up deserved a handshake, when I came out and discovered it on the ground I was far more ****** off however I accepted that I live in the city and things like this are bound to happen. I kept extra mirrors and leavers on hand just for that reason.
When some ******* hit me from behind in the yorkdale parking lot and. Drove off leaving me laying under my bike in the middle of the roadway and dozens of people just stood and watched me limping and bleeding while I struggled to pick up my bike and move it out of the way of traffic I realized what a self centered, cowardly city I actually lived in. I have never blamed anyone for things that have happened to me, things that happen are just a part of life but having been on the receiving end of cold indifference and cowardice I make it a point to never be like that. I always stop to see if help is needed, to not do so in my eyes would lessen my humanity.
When some ******* hit me from behind in the yorkdale parking lot and. Drove off leaving me laying under my bike in the middle of the roadway and dozens of people just stood and watched me limping and bleeding while I struggled to pick up my bike and move it out of the way of traffic I realized what a self centered, cowardly city I actually lived in. I have never blamed anyone for things that have happened to me, things that happen are just a part of life but having been on the receiving end of cold indifference and cowardice I make it a point to never be like that. I always stop to see if help is needed, to not do so in my eyes would lessen my humanity.
STaylorT
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That is horrible!!! I can't understand why no one would attempt to help you. That is just insane!
Ignore him. I'd like my bike picked up back onto it's kickstand please and thank you.
My bike is carbed, so in addition to leaking gasoline all over the pavement, it's possible that the carb could flood the cylinder and make a mess when I turn the key. My battery is sealed, but some other brands may decide to leak battery acid all over the place.
kiwi
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I personally would love to pick up the bike although after having a court case brought against me for trying to help previously during an accident for damage I refuse to do it anymore. Sucks cause I feel bad and some schmuck ruined my good warm heartedness.
I'm sure people want to know so here is the deal:
I came across a rolled over vehicle with two occupants in the middle of the winter. Clearly they had hit ice and traveled through a ditch and rolled over/into a fence and ended up in the farmers field. I pulled the two occupants out of the vehicle after assessing the risk of the cold vs injury and provided shelter until emergency services responded. I thought all was good and but 3 weeks later I received a registered letter requesting payment for the damaged fence even though I had nothing to do with damaging it. Ultimately I had to get a lawyer involved and lost some work time.
In a life and death situation will I help? Most definitely however any other time it's a tough call and I will treat it on a case by case basis. Here is some pics as everyone likes those. I obviously took them after while I was letting my adrenaline cool down before continuing my drive to work.
Dude, I applaud you for doing an honorable thing and helping those people out. I bet they had no clue the insurance company was doing what they were. Disgusting how insurance companies here are. I know you have now a bad experience, but if you ever get a chance to help someone in a life/death situation, please rethink. You maybe saving someones life.
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NealT
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++1 unfortunately there are always low life people that see no issue in taking advantage of people who are the victims or those trying to help. It goes a long way to killing community...
Son, if you ride a bike you should also know how to pick up a bike. And if at any point personal injury is a distinct possibility, you are definitely doing it wrong. It's part of being a motorcycle rider, end of story.
You hear of these stories but never met someone directly who had been through such an experience. Can you elaborate on how the insurance company justified itself by thinking you were responsible for the fence? Seems just so random to go after someone unrelated to the accident? Did they have some reason to think you were involved?
