Toronto Cop James Forcillo may have been on steroids

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1 point for "media desperate to refresh an old story since the don't have a new story".

1 point for, 80 lbs of muscle in a two year cycle could very well be juicing. Could be genetics, the money to buy the legal supplements, the ability to diet properly and the access to the training facility. All of which a cop would have and may use given their job (at the lower ranks) calls for high personal fitness standards.

Without a test it's inadmissible and the more the media dig up unsubstantiated "facts" the more chance he has of getting this thrown out.

Anyway.

Toronto star is basically a supermarket tabloid. Real journalism is unbiased and reports the facts.

Maybe this guy is Bat Boy.
 
If the Star is a supermarket tabloid, what does that make the Sun?
 
Why is this news? Who cares if some cop took steroids? Next they'll be reporting cops who jay walk.
 
Have you seen his picture? He is a Chubb Asz who couldn't bench 425 and dreams of 12 percent body fat...what a bunch of BS
 
He wears that suit like a low proletariat. Lifting things probably comes natural to him. Thinking, not so much. Thinking under pressure? Fuggeddaboudit.
 
sonnythebull said:
Have you seen his picture? He is a Chubb Asz who couldn't bench 425 and dreams of 12 percent body fat...what a bunch of BS
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Was waiting for someone to point that out. 12% body fat is pretty damn lean, think Daniel Craig in the Bond movies, buddy is nowhere near that. I'd guess closer to around 25%.

Bench would be a possibility if he didn't BS the bodyfat numbers such a ridiculous amount
 
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Ok, lets reel this back in.

I think this is the site the silly reporter was quoting: http://reocities.com/Colosseum/hoop/6793/bio.html

Its an old P.O.S site done when the guy was a senior in high school. I don't think over a decade ago is considered "recent". The claims that he worked out for 2 years and gained 80lbs of muscle while staying at 12% bodyfat are nonsense. Why?? Because those claims were written by James and his buddy who at the time were a couple of high school kids. Put it all in context and remember its written by high school kids in the late 90's/early 2000s. High school meatheads have a lot of ego and I am they are embelishing quite a bit here. Broscience was incredibly strong in that era as well..

I am pretty positive they probably did not do hydrostatic BF% tests to find that 12% and they probably guessed (wrongly) or ran through some biased caliper tests (incorrectly executed) to think he was 12%..... Its pointless to argue but I'd bet my money he was never 12% bodyfat and he never gained 80lbs of pure muscle. And for that reason I think the steroid talk is pointless. I can believe he gained 80lbs but Im pretty sure a lot of it would of been fat.

Regardless, the guy who shot Sammy looks like a fat out-of-shape cop to me.
 
This thread did raise an interesting point.
Why wasn't he tested for drugs?
After a shooting they should do a drug test.
After all, you the tax paying Citizen is subjected to a drug/blood test if they "suspect" you of anything e.g breathalyzer or blood test for alcohol.

How do we know the Cop does not have illegal drugs in him (his hobby drugs)?
 
-D- said:
This thread did raise an interesting point.
Why wasn't he tested for drugs?
After a shooting they should do a drug test.
After all, you the tax paying Citizen is subjected to a drug/blood test if they "suspect" you of anything e.g breathalyzer or blood test for alcohol.

How do we know the Cop does not have illegal drugs in him (his hobby drugs)?
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Pretty sure that was the point of the article, except the author went on a totally ridiculous tangent to try and prove her point. I'm all for regular drug testing of our police, as I'm sure most people would be.
 
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After all, you the tax paying Citizen is subjected to a drug/blood test if they "suspect" you of anything e.g breathalyzer or blood test for alcohol.
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Suspicion of drinking and driving only allows for a roadside test. Reasonable grounds (higher burden of proof) allows for a full breath test/blood draw and this is the only instance where a breath/blood test applies.

regder said:
I'm all for regular drug testing of our police, as I'm sure most people would be.
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Incredibly slippery slope there. Simply put, EVERYONE enjoys the same rights and freedoms. Some people are held subject to additional statutes, ie; the Police Services Act for police officers and the National Defence Act for military members that can see them charged/convicted for things that most people can't be but at the end of the day their rights are still protected, just as yours are.

Start writing mandatory drug tests into regulations and you'll quickly see the addition of many others for other scenarios. Most people won't be for that and therefore it won't happen anytime soon.
 
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Paul1000RR said:
sonny vs Forcillo the main event at the GTAM boxing event? :lmao:
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$100 on Sonny, but only if the cop can't use his gun. If he can, $10 on the cop. ;)
 
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coyo said:
Incredibly slippery slope there. Simply put, EVERYONE enjoys the same rights and freedoms. Some people are held subject to additional statutes, ie; the Police Services Act for police officers and the National Defence Act for military members that can see them charged/convicted for things that most people can't be but at the end of the day their rights are still protected, just as yours are.

Start writing mandatory drug tests into regulations and you'll quickly see the addition of many others for other scenarios. Most people won't be for that and therefore it won't happen anytime soon.
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I understand your point, but I don't think it's an unreasonable invasion of rights to ask for our police officers to be drug tested. There are many jobs that require random drug testing, don't see why it shouldn't apply to cops.
 
regder said:
I understand your point, but I don't think it's an unreasonable invasion of rights to ask for our police officers to be drug tested. There are many jobs that require random drug testing, don't see why it shouldn't apply to cops.
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Job such as...?
 
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