So it's that time again....winter pasttimes?

crankcall said:
I have no idea how historic handguns fit into the travel requirement or where they can be used .
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Handguns manufactured prior to 1898 require no license to own/use. They are prescribed antiques and are exempt.
Technically you could shoot them in your back yard.
A modern reproduction is however NOT a prescribed antique and all laws/regulations pertaining to modern handguns must be followed.
 
Gaoler said:
Unless it was manufactured prior to 1898 you're out of luck.
You can't legally buy, sell or trade any handgun in Canada.
Its how the Liberal government eliminated all gun crime in the country.
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Coincidentally, 1898 may have been the last time a black powder pistol was used for crime.
 
Gaoler said:
Handguns manufactured prior to 1898 require no license to own/use. They are prescribed antiques and are exempt.
Technically you could shoot them in your back yard.
A modern reproduction is however NOT a prescribed antique and all laws/regulations pertaining to modern handguns must be followed.
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True. I had to go through the normal process of vetting for my restricted license, in order to purchase a pistol that takes 10 minutes to load. Back when I bought it you could buy exactly the same pistol, in New York State, with just your driver's license.

EDIT - I know a place that's currently selling a Colt 1851 Navy that was manufactured in 1853, with custom silver plated body and grip, that can be had for the low, low price of $42,500.00.
 
I follow the US auctions with a curious fascination. Morphys and Rock Island are the big sites , special engraved colt and Winchesters go for many tens of thousands . Add things like formerly owned by an American president and your into hundreds of thousands. The collector market is certainly interesting to watch ( for me ) .


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nobbie48 said:
I know nothing about guns but how does the powder flask work with that gun?
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Similar to this.

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nobbie48 said:
I know nothing about guns but how does the powder flask work with that gun?
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The powder flask has a thumb lever, that opens a valve to deliver the powder. The spout is sized to hold 24 grains of powder so you put a finger over the opening of the spout, thumb the valve open and then release the lever to close it. That gives you a measured 24 grains of powder to pour into the chamber.

You rotate the cylinder to present each chamber then drop a lead ball on top. The next turn of the cylinder brings the ball in line with the tamping rod, so that you can push the ball into the chamber over the powder. Do that 6 times (5 if you're keeping a chamber clear for safety), cap with a grease patch to help lubricate the cylinder and barrel, then put a percussion cap on the nipple of each cylinder. Good to go.

Because of how long it takes to load properly, some people would carry around a spare or two fully loaded cylinders. It was faster to take out the retaining screw, knock out the retaining block, swap the cylinder, then reassemble than it was to fully load. I could do it in maybe under two minutes.
 
Rob MacLennan said:
The powder flask has a thumb lever, that opens a valve to deliver the powder. The spout is sized to hold 24 grains of powder so you put a finger over the opening of the spout, thumb the valve open and then release the lever to close it. That gives you a measured 24 grains of powder to pour into the chamber.

You rotate the cylinder to present each chamber then drop a lead ball on top. The next turn of the cylinder brings the ball in line with the tamping rod, so that you can push the ball into the chamber over the powder. Do that 6 times (5 if you're keeping a chamber clear for safety), cap with a grease patch to help lubricate the cylinder and barrel, then put a percussion cap on the nipple of each cylinder. Good to go.

Because of how long it takes to load properly, some people would carry around a spare or two fully loaded cylinders. It was faster to take out the retaining screw, knock out the retaining block, swap the cylinder, then reassemble than it was to fully load. I could do it in maybe under two minutes.
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I thought muzzle loaders were single shot. Interesting stage in firearm technology.
 
nobbie48 said:
I thought muzzle loaders were single shot. Interesting stage in firearm technology.
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Things developed pretty rapidly from caplocks, to cartridge firearms but as usually happens with such developments, stuff tends to get used long after better tech is available. During the civil war they also had paper cartridges, that were powder and a proper tapered bullet wrapped in paper, to make loading faster.
 
Rob MacLennan said:
Things developed pretty rapidly from caplocks, to cartridge firearms but as usually happens with such developments, stuff tends to get used long after better tech is available. During the civil war they also had paper cartridges, that were powder and a proper tapered bullet wrapped in paper, to make loading faster.
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Then there's this but it faded away into obscurity…

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Heckler & Koch G11 - Wikipedia

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Caseless ammunition.
 
JC99 said:
Then there's this but it faded away into obscurity…

en.wikipedia.org

Heckler & Koch G11 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

Caseless ammunition.
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Yup. Role playing games turned it into some sort of uber-gun, in the same way that they always over estimate the katana as a sword (European swords, of the same vintage, were made with superior steel).

Funny thing is that in Canada, until the ban on new purchases of pistols, I could buy another cap & ball revolver under my license, but non firing replicas are just plain illegal.
 
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