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R1 and GSXR Crash - Good example of how not to ride on the street.

StrickCBR

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Season will be here soon. Don't be like these guys, choose life... :cool:

[video=youtube;3Yj1JmYF1NY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3Yj1JmYF1NY[/video]
 

Julz

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hhmmm interesting
 

StrickCBR

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Arguably, I felt they were going too fast for the type of highway they were on. By the time the R1 noticed the Mercedes, he was doing a solid 90mph. I think he slowed down to 30-40mph, but if he was doing a sensible speed, he may have avoided the car all together. The GSXR was obviously going faster

Still a dick move on the Mercedes too though
 

ReSTored

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Nice be here sitting at my PC, able to replay the tape a few times and be an armchair quarterback. Speeding, minimal traffic, wide road with large shoulders on both sides, both riders seemed to be responding very slowly, target fixated and both rode right into the side of the car. Was the GSXR braking hard? The forks did not seem to be very compresssed. I really think this was an avoidable accident for both. Maybe I'm wrong. but's that's my impression. Flame away.
 
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Paul1000RR

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cant believe that not even one of them was able to avoid it
 

Rkt14

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No Flaming here,

I'm unsure about this .... They were going kind of fast for the road, however throughout the riding portion of the video it seemed like they had a decent amount of control,

Now approaching the car driving through, i feel that they may've not scanned the road properly while entering or coming close to the intersection, maybe they're reaction time isn't the greatest in this type of situation, BUT, in the end, it would've been the Merc's fault because it looked as if it was turning left or proceeding through the interection blind .. .
 

Paul1000RR

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No Flaming here,

I'm unsure about this .... They were going kind of fast for the road, however throughout the riding portion of the video it seemed like they had a decent amount of control,

Now approaching the car driving through, i feel that they may've not scanned the road properly while entering or coming close to the intersection, maybe they're reaction time isn't the greatest in this type of situation, BUT, in the end, it would've been the Merc's fault because it looked as if it was turning left or proceeding through the interection blind .. .

the white car was at fault, but so were they. you dont do 3 times the legal speed limit, people aren't expecting it
 

ReSTored

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BUT, in the end, it would've been the Merc's fault because it looked as if it was turning left or proceeding through the interection blind .. .

I have mixed feelings here. The car is in the wrong if they're going at or near the speed limit. But clearly they're not and they've already blasted by a few cars. If people stop to help there's a good chance they'll tell the LEO that these reckless fools blew past them at 80 or 90mph and they'll be found partly or fully at fault. When in my van I came close to turning left in front to a SS bike that must have been doing 130 -140km in a 70km zone on Winston Churchill in Mississauga. It's very hard to judge approaching speed with a small profile bike.
 

BNKN

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group ride mentality, especially the fat kid with blue helmet
 

Julz

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Was it avoidable.....yes. However it's one of those situations where do you speed more to avoid the car or slow down and hopefully the car passes. Couldn't really swerve anywhere at that speed. All parties where in the wrong but to me the car is at fault. Speeding or not the bike had the right of way and who ever the driver was should've yielded not stop in the middle of the freakin road.
 

tricky

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daayuuuum, two-for-one...

That Merc shouldn't have been in the middle of the road, but the driver probably froze up or thought it was better the bikes try to swerve than moving the car and risking hitting the bikes as they swerve?
 

Wasted

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@2:09 you can see that the white merc is making a left turn. As per the Ontario fault determination rules the driver is 100% at fault. Period.

"If Automobile 'B' (Merc) turns left into the path of automobile 'A' (bikes) the driver of automobile 'A' is not at fault and the driver of automobile 'B' is 100% at fault for the incident"

It makes no reference to the speed or intentions of anyone involved. Unless there is a cop on scene with a radar gun and decides to hand out tickets the car is absolutely 100% at fault

As for injuries.....it's a motorcycle accident.......everyone died. Didn't you mom tell you anything?
 

Paul

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Yeah, the d***face pretty much stopped in the middle of the road...
Plus riders had right of way

@2:09 you can see that the white merc is making a left turn. As per the Ontario fault determination rules the driver is 100% at fault. Period.

"If Automobile 'B' (Merc) turns left into the path of automobile 'A' (bikes) the driver of automobile 'A' is not at fault and the driver of automobile 'B' is 100% at fault for the incident"

It makes no reference to the speed or intentions of anyone involved. Unless there is a cop on scene with a radar gun and decides to hand out tickets the car is absolutely 100% at fault

As for injuries.....it's a motorcycle accident.......everyone died. Didn't you mom tell you anything?

Motorcyclists need to get this mentality out of their heads....when you're out on the road..it doesn't matter who has the right of way or who is right or wrong.... You're going to lose every time against a car. "Right of way" is not some magic shield against dumb drivers.
 

Wasted

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Motorcyclists need to get this mentality out of their heads....when you're out on the road..it doesn't matter who has the right of way or who is right or wrong.... You're going to lose every time against a car. "Right of way" is not some magic shield against dumb drivers.

I absolutely agree. I see the results of these situations all of the time. The only good collision is the one that you avoid. I was merely adding to the 'who is at fault' debate. I'm in no way advocating that one should go blasting down a highway with no regard for safety just because they have right of way.
 

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