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mimico_polak

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I'm not pressing the issue because i feel like it will just spiral into the Charter of Rights debate, but whose playing fast and loose with 'rights' now?

Courtesy is a very broad term; so i can say please, thank you, ask how your day is going, kick you a few bucks as a tip. However, because i had the big bad helmet on, i'm actually an elitist loser who has no concern for the safety of people in their work place.

Oy vey!
The ‘loser’ is the guy asking for the helmet to come off....not the motorcyclist in my post.
Anyway this won’t get resolved here. I’m happy to agree to disagree on this one.
 

Lightcycle

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I take my helmet off in a place where money changes hands frequently because I can put myself in the other person's shoes and know that I would feel uncomfortable if someone came in with their face obscured.

Courtesy is more than just saying please and thank you. It's actually being considerate of the other person and what they may be feeling.
 

Malks

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Why would anyone NOT pay at the pump when it's so much quicker? Unless it's an old pump that doesn't have that option but the vast majority do.

Same at Tim Hortons, when I arrive I place my order on the ap then walk in straight to the express pickup counter instead of waiting in a slow moving line.
The only places where my cards have been compromised has been at gas stations, so I will never use credit or debit to pay for gas. Bit of a pain at stations where you must pre-pay, but it's nice to stretch the legs whether I'm riding or driving.
 

nakkers

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OP is offended because a gas station attendant asks them to remove their helmet and didn’t like the answer that it’s the law?

Let’s hashtag this one and start a liberal rights movement!

So the expectation would be the gas station attendant provide a better response when the rider asks why?

Where I might find fault with the gas station attendant is, they control the pump.

If the concern is about theft prevention and the ability of identifying someone stealing fuel, there are two options. Let them pay at the pump and they can wear their helmet without issue.

If they want to fuel up and pay after. Don’t activate the pump. When questioned, explain why they need to remove the helmet. Customer can decide what to do after that. Leave or remove helmet and fuel up.

The rider can get offended the attendant is profiling motorcyclist a thief but, the attendant does have justification.

There is my nickel and won’t ask for it back!



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Evoex

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I don't see the big deal here. If a place of business asks respectfully for me to take the helmet off. I don't see any reason not to. It takes all of one minute to take it off and back on. Don't see the issue here. Depending on the location , I actually feel better taking the helmet off even before anyone asks. Now if I'm paying at the pump. Helmet stays on. I've never had anyone direct me to take off the helmet.. They have asked politely and I said no problem.

Not sure why there is so much attitude here for such a simple request..
Bingo.
 
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Baggsy

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Sorry, but if someone is too lazy, too cool or too proud to take their helmet off in the first place, then chances are that any request will be take as disrespectful.

Since I have a modular helmet most of the time, the compromise of flipping the front up has always worked.

Worst case scenario, the person locks you out of the booth area until you remove it, and calls the police if you leave without paying.
 
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raginduck

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I've never been in a situation where I had to deal with someone wearing a helmet while they conducted business with me.. and probably never will..
I do occasionally have to deal with people that try to converse with me while on their phone.. and it irritates me.. I just ignore them until they get off it...

I imagine I'd do the same with someone wearing a helmet... I'd just ignore them.. until they took it off.
 

meme

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Again, they can ask and I can refuse. I'll stand there holding my money out, they can take it or call the cops. I'm a cash for gas (been compromised a few times with cards) kind of gal.

It's not got nothing to do with respect as I respectfully say no thank you
 

Evoex

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Again, they can ask and I can refuse. I'll stand there holding my money out, they can take it or call the cops. I'm a cash for gas (been compromised a few times with cards) kind of gal.

It's not got nothing to do with respect as I respectfully say no thank you
I think there's a lot of confusion in this thread with Empathy vs Courtesy.
 

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danp

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The only places where my cards have been compromised has been at gas stations, so I will never use credit or debit to pay for gas. Bit of a pain at stations where you must pre-pay, but it's nice to stretch the legs whether I'm riding or driving.
How were they compromised?
 

Evoex

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How were they compromised?
Swiping/info transfer on the debit/credit machine. i've also seen reports of info theft on the pumps itself, they create a 'scanner' which looks just like the slot where you put in your card and it fits over top the real one,.
 

TK4

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Entitlement Comes to mind.
en·ti·tle·ment
[inˈtīdlmənt, enˈtīdlmənt]
NOUN​

  1. the fact of having a right to something.
    "full entitlement to fees and maintenance should be offered" ·
    [more]

    synonyms:
    right · prerogative · claim · title · license · permission · dispensation · privilege · liberty
    • the amount to which a person has a right.
      "annual leave entitlement"
      synonyms:
      allowance · allocation · allotment · quota · ration · grant · limit
    • the belief that one is inherently deserving of privileges or special treatment.
      "no wonder your kids have a sense of entitlement" · "this entitlement mentality is completely out of control"
 

bikepike

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Expecting someone to remove their helmet when they have cash in hand ready to pay and is clearly no threat to your business whatsoever than you are a total idiot.

What's the difference between wearing a helmet in a gas station or wearing a backpack? What if I'm stealing or have a weapon inside?
 

beverage

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Expecting someone to remove their helmet when they have cash in hand ready to pay and is clearly no threat to your business whatsoever than you are a total idiot.

What's the difference between wearing a helmet in a gas station or wearing a backpack? What if I'm stealing or have a weapon inside?
It depends. Are you wearing the backpack over your face?
 

wonderings

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It depends. Are you wearing the backpack over your face?
If the person is there to steal or rob the place while wearing a motorcycle helmet the clerk asking them to remove it is not going to change the outcome. The robber will leave the helmet on and continue to rob the place.

That being said I would take my helmet off if they asked, this is not something worth fighting about in my opinion.
 

Evoex

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If the person is there to steal or rob the place while wearing a motorcycle helmet the clerk asking them to remove it is not going to change the outcome. The robber will leave the helmet on and continue to rob the place.

That being said I would take my helmet off if they asked, this is not something worth fighting about in my opinion.
Asked, or demanded so telling you it's the law.
 

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