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Law Enforcement - The Good, The Bad, The Ugly.....
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No, likely to Vancouver.
justride
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Off-duty Toronto cop avoids jail time for teen’s assault in ‘Kijiji deal gone bad’
Justice Jennifer Woollcombe inside a Brampton, Ont., courtroom "“I am very concerned that despite his all of his police training and experience, Au demonstrated the inability or unwillingness to assess a situation and then to use reasonable force,”
Off-duty Toronto cop avoids jail time for teen’s assault in ‘Kijiji deal gone bad’ | Globalnews.ca
An off-duty Toronto police officer guilty of assaulting a teenage during a “Kijiji deal gone bad” has been handed a suspended sentence and 12 months probation.
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Another embarrassment by the courts. If it was you or I, we would be in jail and have a lifetime weapons ban. Courts need to start putting police at least on an even playing field and ideally held to an elevated standard as we give them exceptional powers so abusing/exceeding them should come with exceptional consequences.Off-duty Toronto cop avoids jail time for teen’s assault in ‘Kijiji deal gone bad’
Justice Jennifer Woollcombe inside a Brampton, Ont., courtroom "
“I am very concerned that despite his all of his police training and experience, Au demonstrated the inability or unwillingness to assess a situation and then to use reasonable force,”
Off-duty Toronto cop avoids jail time for teen’s assault in ‘Kijiji deal gone bad’ | Globalnews.ca
An off-duty Toronto police officer guilty of assaulting a teenage during a “Kijiji deal gone bad” has been handed a suspended sentence and 12 months probation.
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When judges tailor their sentences to avoid the big hammer, they should be fired. They know cops with a custodial sentence can get fired so they almost never hand one out. Even if someone dies, the thick blue line takes precedence.
Mad Mike
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We should go the route of electing judges to being democratic principles into our justice system.
Appointed judges leave no say to the public - they are free to act with near zero accountability and as Ford puts it, they are serving criminals -not the people of Ontario.
Cops with a custodial sentence are pretty much fired immediately, because they simply can't report for duty. A conviction, even with a non custodial sentence, can result in being fired. It does. however, feel like he was under-convicted. If the injury received in that "interaction" resulted in a brain bleed, then he's guilty of much more than simple assault.
My knee jerk reaction is the same but the reality is we could end up with a ton of wrongful convictions by judges that want to get re-elected by being seen as hard on crime. I don't think the general public has the time or intellect to handle the challenge.
This is one of the reasons why we definitely don't need to look to the American system, to try and fix what little is wrong with ours. We would only break our system more, not fix the issues that it currently has.
How am I contradicting myself? As previously stated our system has a markedly lower rate of recidivism than does theirs. Ours is less punitive than theirs. The comparison shows that a "tougher on crime" system is actually less effective and our needs to be tweaked a little, not moved in the direction of the US, which fails far too often. We need to deal better with repeat offenders, not "crack down" on all.
I try to float the thought of appointing of judges with a system not unlike jury selection where there are inputs from several points of view.
The political "Thank you for your service to the party" crap has to go.
Gaoler
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Bring back trial by combat.
Seriously though... the "justice system" is just one "system" intertwined with all our other socital systems.. And they're all imperfect if not completely FUBAR.
These days there's a lot if noise about bail reform, from a lot of people who apparently don't know how bail works.
I hear Doug Ford rattling on about it...
Okay Doug, pony up the money to bolster bail programs.
Seriously though... the "justice system" is just one "system" intertwined with all our other socital systems.. And they're all imperfect if not completely FUBAR.
These days there's a lot if noise about bail reform, from a lot of people who apparently don't know how bail works.
I hear Doug Ford rattling on about it...
Okay Doug, pony up the money to bolster bail programs.
Many jails are operating at or over capacity, there is a storage problem that needs to be solved and is feeding into this.
It is easy to complain about soft judges, bail reform, blah, blah, but at the same time they need to work with the above.... Doug can fix the above with money.
It is easy to complain about soft judges, bail reform, blah, blah, but at the same time they need to work with the above.... Doug can fix the above with money.
While it has issues regarding fairness, requiring ankle monitors for bail (at least for certain crimes) and making the accused pay for them (reimbursible if they get acquitted) solves many of the current issues for minimal cost. All of these dirtbags ignoring bail conditions like curfews or limited travel would have a lot harder time with a monitor.
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Yup, you guys are getting it. We can't just say that we're going to crack down on people in breach of conditions and absconders, unless we actually have a place to put them.
