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Daily sports car?

Evoex

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Any car with a stick shift is sporty enough for me.

All hail the millenial anti theft device.
i've got a '98 beige corolla to sell you...
 

ifiddles

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@timtune not sure if I've said this already or not, but here goes...

I had a 2007 Miata MX5, manual transmission that was rear ended...had to get it fixed and insurance paid for a rental...the rental was a 4 door automatic Civic base model...it was the MOST boring thing I've ever driven...anyways, got my Miata back and was SOOOOO happy I told a friend that "driving a stick was better than sex!" LMAO

I can't stand driving an automatic, even those CVTs that allow you to shift aren't the same...
 

Evoex

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@timtune not sure if I've said this already or not, but here goes...

I had a 2007 Miata MX5, manual transmission that was rear ended...had to get it fixed and insurance paid for a rental...the rental was a 4 door automatic Civic base model...it was the MOST boring thing I've ever driven...anyways, got my Miata back and was SOOOOO happy I told a friend that "driving a stick was better than sex!" LMAO

I can't stand driving an automatic, even those CVTs that allow you to shift aren't the same...
finally made the jump to automatic in my x5 after decades of manual cars. i don't really miss it keeping city traffic in mind. i would completely agree it's more enjoyable..but going 20km/hr between stop-and-go traffic, getting in and out of first for 40 minutes is not 'fun'.
 

GreyGhost

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finally made the jump to automatic in my x5 after decades of manual cars. i don't really miss it keeping city traffic in mind. i would completely agree it's more enjoyable..but going 20km/hr between stop-and-go traffic, getting in and out of first for 40 minutes is not 'fun'.
Diesel standard is ok if average traffic speed is 10 km/h or more. It can happily drag itself along at idle.

At this point there could be a cool hybrid where stop and go was electric and higher speeds were ice with standard transmission. I'm not sure anyone will bother building that vehicle though.
 

FullMotoJacket

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even those CVTs that allow you to shift aren't the same...
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FullMotoJacket

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I'm sure she means the CVT's that have paddle shifters guys. Plenty of those around.

DCTs (Dual Clutch Transmission). CVT (Constant Velocity Transmission) are chain drive and work similar to a snowmobile. Never seen one with a shifting option other than D/L on the console.
 

GreyGhost

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DCTs (Dual Clutch Transmission). CVT (Constant Velocity Transmission) are chain drive and work similar to a snowmobile. Never seen one with a shifting option other than D/L on the console.
They exist. Obviously it is shifting between fake gears but it is possible as the drum positions are computer controlled not weight controlled like a snowmobile.
 

Relax

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They exist. Obviously it is shifting between fake gears but it is possible as the drum positions are computer controlled not weight controlled like a snowmobile.
I read on one of the forums that Subaru determined in their customer focus groups that people preferred the CVT to sound more like a conventional transmission, so they tuned it to actually "shift through the gears" in later models.
 

regder

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They exist. Obviously it is shifting between fake gears but it is possible as the drum positions are computer controlled not weight controlled like a snowmobile.

Unfortunately, the few CVT equipped vehicles I have driven have all had fake shifts, even in normal automatic mode. Something about the CVT driving at a constant RPM turned off people used to conventional transmissions. Takes away one of the main advantages of a CVT, driving at a constant ideal RPM.
 

SunnY S

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I read on one of the forums that Subaru determined in their customer focus groups that people preferred the CVT to sound more like a conventional transmission, so they tuned it to actually "shift through the gears" in later models.

this is very common, drive a current Honda Accord with CVT, you will swear you are driving a traditional automatic. The "shifting" feel is very convincing and shift points accurate.
 

FullMotoJacket

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Point is, a CVT doesn’t have any gears to shift other than reverse. It’s not even a transmission by definition.
 

Wind Shear

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finally made the jump to automatic in my x5 after decades of manual cars. i don't really miss it keeping city traffic in mind. i would completely agree it's more enjoyable..but going 20km/hr between stop-and-go traffic, getting in and out of first for 40 minutes is not 'fun'.

I just leave huge gaps in front of me for acceleration and deceleration zone/buffer. Boy do the beemers behind me get angry
 

nakkers

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I’ve got a 2018 Forester with CVT and optional paddle shifters for 6 “gears”. The CVT also has faux shift points instead of the snowmobile drone when accelerating along the on ramps etc.

I have never used the paddle to manual shift the vehicle.


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mimico_polak

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I’ve driven a few CVTs and not sure whether the Nissan or Subaru is worse. Both are garbage and our Rogues both started failing early and you could feel the issue coming.
Subaru is also pretty bad. Although I’ve not tried the one in the WRX, just the stock Impreza.

One of the reasons for trading in my WRX for the volt was the office changed offices from downtown (GO train accessible) to Scarborough. I’ve done the 401 corridor with the Si…I wasn’t going to do it again in a manual car.
 

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