Cashier or self check out?

[bakaboy]

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1-3 items: self-checkout
more than 3 items: cashier

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This....

 

[Maniac]

I'll use self checkout if the cashier is busy. I prefer people over machines which is why I refuse to use a drive through service as well. Ghastly option.

Wonder if there is a correlation to drive through and self checkout but that's another thread.

Nah, I don’t think so. Love self checkout, hate drive through.

 

[TwistedKestrel]

Self checkout so I don't have to feel self conscious about holding up the queue while I incompetently bag my own groceries.

Except Shoppers - for some reason their self checkout machines yell at you really loudly the whole way through with unhelpful advice. I don't know what kind of crazy person designed it. I know that Shoppers has an older demographic, but are those people ever going to touch the self-checkout?

 

[backmarkerducati]

Unless the lines are really crazy cashier for the same reason, to preserve jobs.

I also had a lot of negative experience with early self checkout and I still think it is not near good enough, things not scanning right, actually takes longer, etc. But as I said, the main reason for me to not use it is jobs....

No to shop lifting.

 

[SVeezy]

Self checkout so I don't have to feel self conscious about holding up the queue while I incompetently bag my own groceries.

Except Shoppers - for some reason their self checkout machines yell at you really loudly the whole way through with unhelpful advice. I don't know what kind of crazy person designed it. I know that Shoppers has an older demographic, but are those people ever going to touch the self-checkout?

I was recently told at Shoppers I had to use self checkout unless I was paying cash


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[Iceman]

I prefer self checkout most times even if I have a cartful, I'm usually faster than most of their cashiers.

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[Scuba Steve]

Self checkout so I don't have to feel self conscious about holding up the queue while I incompetently bag my own groceries.

Except Shoppers - for some reason their self checkout machines yell at you really loudly the whole way through with unhelpful advice. I don't know what kind of crazy person designed it. I know that Shoppers has an older demographic, but are those people ever going to touch the self-checkout?

I go to the cashier so I don't have to bag anything myself.

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[FullMotoJacket]

I was recently told at Shoppers I had to use self checkout unless I was paying cash


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Say you're paying cash
wait till it's all rung through
<open wallet> oh, I must have spent the cash I had yesterday
Change that to <insert payment method here>, please

 

[timtune]

deal? theft? I scan. It doesn't beep. What to do? If I was a properly trained cashier I would know. Your machine does not work as it's supposed to. That's my fault? No it's time you gave me a "deal" to put up with this BS.
Thanks but I sleep just fine at night.

 

[mimico_polak]

deal? theft? I scan. It doesn't beep. What to do? If I was a properly trained cashier I would know. Your machine does not work as it's supposed to. That's my fault? No it's time you gave me a "deal" to put up with this BS.
Thanks but I sleep just fine at night.

You motion for the person standing 10ft away to come and help out lol. Or you scan again.

By your logic I could have all my groceries free! Scan at an odd angle....Schucks....guess it’s free! LoL

Or...and get this...you could go to the cashier line lol.

Good one. I like.

 

[Mad Mike]

Fastest way out. I won’t use self checkout if I have produce.

Jobs? I don’t worry about them too much, I’d rather save money than pay for make-work employment on things that provide zero value to me.

 

[timtune]

Thanks MP. I'll wait for the training though. How can I trust you?

 

[Priller]

It's a bit of a misnomer that every self checkout reduces one job.

I have a friend who works at a massive Dollarama who installed self checkouts a year or so ago. There was rumours of course someone would get laid off. Never happened - the employees that would have been on till just got reassigned stocking shelves and maintaining the store instead.

It's pretty rare that they are as nakedly craven as to lay folks off the day the machines get installed. Instead, they rehire fewer people as the inevitable turnover happens. It's also not as straightforward as one checkout machine = one job.

And people maintain those machines too. A (now ex, unfortunately) friend works for the company that fixes them when they bork up. He's a very busy guy and there's an army of them out there.

Absolutely they do, but the math is obvious that there's one mechanic for hundreds if not thousands of machines. It wouldn't be cheaper otherwise.

If you're upset about self checkouts, ask yourself if you use ATM's, pump your own gas, ever used an automated phone system, dialed your own phone number instead of asking an operator to connect you, got upset when a machine reset the pins at the bowling alley instead of a pinsetter employee.....etc etc etc ad infinitum.

Some are improvements on systems, others are simply companies doing away with the messy bit of having to employ humans. Dialling my own number is obviously a technical improvement that skips a step. ATM's are a bit complex, as they have allowed banks to justify ridiculously short opening hours, though online banking has generally taken over for 95% of most banking needs. Automated phone systems are infuriating messes where the end user experience is notably worse and it only benefits the cost savings for the company.

Automation and globalisation has unquestionably had significant negative impact on the quality of life for people at the bottom end of the middle class and down. It's been a trickle to date, but it's going to become a social crisis if we're not careful. At the moment, the two best ways for people without post-secondary education to earn a living wage are by driving trucks or working as a construction labourer. Those two industries employ millions of Canadians, almost all of whom have limited education.

Trucks becoming automated is now all but inevitable. It's only a matter of time, particularly with the rapid advancement of self-driving cars. Having trucks that can operate 24 hours a day will be too much of an advantage for any freight company to ignore.

Construction is a little further behind, but I can tell you as someone in the industry, there is a lot of effort being put into figuring out ways to minimise necessary labour. Whether it's making buildings increasingly modular, with site work being limited to assembly of pre-built components, or whether it's using human-operated robots, the labour demand will be lessened significantly.

What that looks like in a society nobody knows. It's easy to accuse people like myself who are worried about this of being luddites, and to point to other work that has replaced extinct jobs. But this is a new level of automation with no plan for those left behind. The only analogue I can think of from history is when Rome became flooded with slave labour in the late republic, throwing a lot of citizens out of work, including soldiers returning from the campaigns where those same slaves had been captured. This resulted in a huge amount of social unrest, civil wars, populist politicians, and ultimately the end of the republic. As conquest became less common, the economy righted itself somewhat, but it took hundreds of years.

If we're not careful, between automation and global outsourcing, we could have a huge chunk of our population equally disenfranchised and militant...

 

[SVeezy]

Say you're paying cash
wait till it's all rung through
oh, I must have spent the cash I had yesterday
Change that to , please

Oh I agree it would have been easily circumvented. I just had one item and didn’t care that much.


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[Hack]

Whenever in directed over to self checkout...

"No thanks, I dont work here"

 

[Wingboy]

I get annoyed at pumping my own gas every time I fill up much nicer to wait in the nice warm vehicle.

Lol. I remember an employee of yours that didn't like pumping gas either.hahaha

 

[mimico_polak]

Thanks MP. I'll wait for the training though. How can I trust you?

You can’t. The beauty of the inter webs!

 

[PrivatePilot]

I get annoyed at pumping my own gas every time I fill up much nicer to wait in the nice warm vehicle.

I just spend 3 seconds plugging my car in on the way past when home and mine is full every morning. ?

 

[PrivatePilot]

Trucks becoming automated is now all but inevitable. It's only a matter of time, particularly with the rapid advancement of self-driving cars. Having trucks that can operate 24 hours a day will be too much of an advantage for any freight company to ignore.

Its funny, as someone in the industry I’ve been hearing for the last 5 years my job is going away sometime soon. Yet I still seem to have a job and am dealing with a tractor that slams it’s brakes on because a vehicle in another lane is slowing down and it can’t even identify that correctly.

And meanwhile, in TeslaLand…

I expect by the time this self driving crap is even close to reality in the trucking industry I’ll be retiring out of it. 15 more years minimum, 20+ realistically. And there’s large segments of the industry that’ll never be self driving.

 

[Mad Mike]

It's pretty rare that they are as nakedly craven as to lay folks off the day the machines get installed. Instead, they rehire fewer people as the inevitable turnover happens. It's also not as straightforward as one checkout machine = one job.


Absolutely they do, but the math is obvious that there's one mechanic for hundreds if not thousands of machines. It wouldn't be cheaper otherwise.


Some are improvements on systems, others are simply companies doing away with the messy bit of having to employ humans. Dialling my own number is obviously a technical improvement that skips a step. ATM's are a bit complex, as they have allowed banks to justify ridiculously short opening hours, though online banking has generally taken over for 95% of most banking needs. Automated phone systems are infuriating messes where the end user experience is notably worse and it only benefits the cost savings for the company.

Automation and globalisation has unquestionably had significant negative impact on the quality of life for people at the bottom end of the middle class and down. It's been a trickle to date, but it's going to become a social crisis if we're not careful. At the moment, the two best ways for people without post-secondary education to earn a living wage are by driving trucks or working as a construction labourer. Those two industries employ millions of Canadians, almost all of whom have limited education.

Trucks becoming automated is now all but inevitable. It's only a matter of time, particularly with the rapid advancement of self-driving cars. Having trucks that can operate 24 hours a day will be too much of an advantage for any freight company to ignore.

Construction is a little further behind, but I can tell you as someone in the industry, there is a lot of effort being put into figuring out ways to minimise necessary labour. Whether it's making buildings increasingly modular, with site work being limited to assembly of pre-built components, or whether it's using human-operated robots, the labour demand will be lessened significantly.

What that looks like in a society nobody knows. It's easy to accuse people like myself who are worried about this of being luddites, and to point to other work that has replaced extinct jobs. But this is a new level of automation with no plan for those left behind. The only analogue I can think of from history is when Rome became flooded with slave labour in the late republic, throwing a lot of citizens out of work, including soldiers returning from the campaigns where those same slaves had been captured. This resulted in a huge amount of social unrest, civil wars, populist politicians, and ultimately the end of the republic. As conquest became less common, the economy righted itself somewhat, but it took hundreds of years.

If we're not careful, between automation and global outsourcing, we could have a huge chunk of our population equally disenfranchised and militant...

Thing is the places where they place these typically starve for workers. We’re trying to hire unskilled factory help, $18/hr full benefits package and the opportunity to learn high value skills.

20 resumes in a week, one worthy of an interview.

I was with a bank not long ago, they pay $21 to start plus generous bonus, benefit and pension plans. Lousy hours but all you need to get hired is the ability to fog a mirror.

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