Any GTAM'ers own an electric vehicle?

GreyGhost said:
12.5c/km vehicle cost plus <5c/km power (fuel), maintenance close to zero. May be the cheapest wheels around if if it can do the job for you. For the 12K in lease payments, you could get a 10 yo 200k km corolla that burns ~10c/km in gas plus fluids plus maintenance and it's hard for the ICE to win.

You can pick up a used 2024 w 18k km for $23K if you prefer to own. For a vehicle with a sticker of $42K, I don't think I would want to own. That is phenomenal depreciation.
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Just check the lease terms carefully.

Ages ago my brother was offered a lease take over on a nice Pontiac, available because a sales rep was leaving.

There was a low mileage cap and here was under 10,000 Kms left on the clock with over a year left to use them. Extra Kms were @ $0.30 / Km. He passed on the offer.

In another case, a company lease came with a trade-in residual value adjustment at the end. That individual had picked a vehicle that negatively changed in value over three years. It was like turning in a smashed car.

Battery technology could be a factor in that. Battery technology is like the 100 MPG carburetor we kept hearing about growing up. What's a 2026 Corolla EV going to be worth in 2029 when the 2029 model has twice the range and is much lighter?

What's a three year old computer or smart phone worth?

IMO Lease is the way to go. The sellers get long term income but I don't know how they'll balance the books if residual values drop.

The massive discounts (bribes) make me wonder how much wiggle room there is in MSRP.
 
nobbie48 said:
Battery technology could be a factor in that. Battery technology is like the 100 MPG carburetor we kept hearing about growing up. What's a 2026 Corolla EV going to be worth in 2029 when the 2029 model has twice the range and is much lighter?
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No ...that's nonsense :rolleyes: ....battery tech is in a disruptive mode just now with a couple of prominent non-lithium technologies moving into production this year.

Solid state battery SSB is less certain as far as time frame but is inevitable within a short time frame and may be a surprise sooner.

When the biggest battery company in the world, CATL, and the largest EV seller in the world BVD make production announcements...pays to pay attention when making large purchases.
CATL has two non-Lion technologies on the go moving to production.
Chinese battery giant CATL and automaker Changan have unveiled the world's first passenger car powered by sodium-ion batteries. The battery technology, aiming to hit public roads by mid-2026, could significantly reduce fire risks while improving performance in extreme heat and cold.Feb 6, 2026

CATL unveil world's first sodium-ion EV with about 248-mile ...​
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stay tuned 🍿
 
Think I'm a bit of an EV whisperer. People have been picking my brain all week at work. Second one just texted me that they picked this one up in London today. They wanted leather seats and this one was the closest.

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Scuba Steve said:
Too small think it isn't safe enough.

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I'm not sure what front crash tests reveal.

If you crash a Mini Cooper into a concrete wall at 60 KPH it goes from 60 to zero in 0.01 seconds. Hit a semi head on with both doing 60 KPH and its 60 KPH to negative 60 KPH in the same time span so like hitting the wall at 120 KPH.

Bad drivers cause pollution by demanding Hummer sized vehicles that make them feel safe.
 
My guess is Chinese designed cars will struggle in all but low mileage urban use - much like Chinese atvs, bikes, and power equipment.

Canadian climate, roads and distances are about as harsh as anywhere in the world.

I work in some really tough locals where trucks are the dominant vehicles, weather and terrain separates the men from the boys - quickly.
 
nobbie48 said:
Will the allotted number of cars be spread across Canada or, to concentrate service, be localized in B.C. or southern Ontario?

Will the owners wave to each other?
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Given that it's a liberal policy, my guess is most end up in Quebec. Reward their base with cheap(er) vehicles.
 
They'll land in BC and they're well set up besides Quebec for charging infrastructure. Ontario is a distant third. If I can find an EV owner youtuber in Fort Mac, I'll definitely subscribe.
 
There's no regional allocation within Canada. They'll sell the allocated number to whoever will buy them. Odds favour Quebec then BC due to high existing EV market share then Ontario because it's big.

These are going to be ordinary vehicles from familiar brands through existing dealers for quite a while.

How many people drive Buicks that were assembled in China? I bet quite a few people don't even know.
 
SunnY S said:
enjoy while you can, its only a matter of time before Fiat closes up shop in canada.
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Didn’t Fiat cease sales in Canada back in 2021? I think they closed all the Fiat dealers by 2022.
 
Mad Mike said:
Didn’t Fiat cease sales in Canada back in 2021? I think they closed all the Fiat dealers by 2022.
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I didn't even know there were FIAT dealerships in Canada. Just thought they sold under the Chrysler branded dealerships.
 
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