Any GTAM'ers own an electric vehicle?

From what I have heard the number of vehicles was inline with previous years, and represents around 3% of the Canadian market. Don't expect BYD anytime soon as they will need to go through Canadian approved crash testing and general certifications--those take time but may also require some modifications--then there is the lack of dealer network, etc. Instead expect Chinese made Teslas (instead of US made, I am good with that) and potentially other brands that already sell in Canada but are also made in China.

Overall, IMO, it looks like a good deal, other than the drama from Dougie the impact to Ontario should be minimal while it is big relief for other provinces. Given the US these days, China seems like less of a global threat...

For some though, I am sure it is damned if you do, damned if you don't...
 
Australia has strict rules on crash testing etc and BYD has been here for a while and well received ....I'm sure Carney will fast track approvals tho Ford could be a problem. Really like their four door pickups.
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Australia has strict rules on crash testing etc and BYD has been here for a while and well received ....I'm sure Carney will fast track approvals tho Ford could be a problem. Really like their four door pickups.
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Australia f-d over their own auto industry so why not bring in the cheapest things. Canada need a version of that auto pact back again if you want to sell a car in you built one in Canada.

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Living in the past - the auto industry is global - protectionism is a stupid policy to keep propping up non-competitive companies. My 2¢

It's not just the "cheapest" ..pejorative nonsense, it's better and less expensive = good value for the Australian consumer.
 
First 2027 Bolt review I read...looks great, and the price is within the affordable range.


KIA EV6 maybe? 0.9% financing ATM. 800 volt e-GMP platform so they are charge fiends. Sucks to see one pull into a charge spot and be long gone before I'm half-way done.
 
A new keeping up with the Jones's metric...how fast does YOUR EV charge. ;)

Good vid on battery tech
 
Well if any part of this is true ( Chery is established in Australia ) it's a complete disruptor
What happens to all those billion dollar Lion factories?
I'm just interested in the trickle down to EV maxi-scoots and Mcycles. 🍿
Interesting times ....:coffee:
One guy on the SD forum is test riding a big Verge today and will buy one when he sells his big Zero.
 
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Do I need to make an off-topic meme thread now too?

@mimico_polak always ruining things 😒
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To stay on topic, I'm debating whether to roll the dice on a cheap high mileage EV to get my feet wet. I've had good luck buying high mileage ICE vehicles at such a discount that the money saved could fund just about any foreseeable DIY ICE component repair.

But on an EV, if the battery pack goes, you have to replace the whole pack, and my 4-post lift doesn't help because the runways would be in the way, so now I also have to pay someone. If the motor goes, there's nothing to rebuild (easily). Basically all the major parts are an all-or-nothing replacement with no brand new low-cost parts that can be easily swapped out.

On the flip side, it would be nice to have an all-aluminum vehicle that will never rust on me, and no more oil changes, valve adjustments, or timing belt/chain to worry about would be welcome. I've lusted over the i-Pace since it's debut and still think it's the best-looking EV ever, but Jaguar isn't exactly known for their electrical reliability and their solution to their battery pack problem is to tell their customers to only charge it outdoors so that if it combusts, it doesn't take your house with it. LAME.
 
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To stay on topic, I'm debating whether to roll the dice on a cheap high mileage EV to get my feet wet. I've had good luck buying high mileage ICE vehicles at such a discount that the money saved could fund just about any foreseeable DIY ICE component repair.

But on an EV, if the battery pack goes, you have to replace the whole pack, and my 4-post lift doesn't help because the runways would be in the way, so now I also have to pay someone. If the motor goes, there's nothing to rebuild (easily). Basically all the major parts are an all-or-nothing replacement with no brand new low-cost parts that can be easily swapped out.

On the flip side, it would be nice to have an all-aluminum vehicle that will never rust on me, and no more oil changes, valve adjustments, or timing belt/chain to worry about would be welcome. I've lusted over the i-Pace since it's debut and still think it's the best-looking EV ever, but Jaguar isn't exactly known for their electrical reliability and their solution to their battery pack problem is to tell their customers to only charge it outdoors so that if it combusts, it doesn't take your house with it. LAME.
I've actually looked into this recently as Ford's RTO mandate sucks ass and I hate it. Having said that, and having to drive 5days/week to Scarborough is garbage and I considered a second gen Leaf.

They have horrible range, but my understanding is that a battery swap is a fairly complex but DIY job that can be done at home by someone that can follow directions and has the tools necessary for it.

There's a range of Leaf models where the battery pack can be upgraded to a much higher capacity (almost double?) for less than 10k or so and there are retrofits kits available, but I haven't dug further into it simply because of the fact that buying a cheap commuter EV is probably not worth the hassle and a 5-10k ICE car would do the trick just as well...but the Leaf has the range to get me to work...but possibly not back without charging.
 
Now that I’ve dipped my toe into the market with a PHEV, the idea of a used EV is looking promising.

I think battery preconditioning is important and not all EVs are the same with how well they manage their batteries. Also, home charging is fine for the most part but, if you need to road trip and stop for a charge, some EVs take longer than others to get back up to 80%.

The latest and greatest EVs are better but, even a few EVs out there have limited charge rate capabilities.

Researching this kind of stuff takes up considerably time and often just abandon the idea until I’m board again and start checking things out again. 😆


Tesla Y/3, favouring Y as the boss prefers SUV seat height over conventional car. Her girlfriend has a Mach E that left a favourable impression. Told her it’s not quite the height of CUV/SUV and if she likes the Ford, the Tesla 3 should be looked at. Still get a bit of side eye from the idea.

Extended ranges and AWD in any case. The Ford is cheaper but, for the reasons mentioned above.
 
Now that I’ve dipped my toe into the market with a PHEV, the idea of a used EV is looking promising.

I think battery preconditioning is important and not all EVs are the same with how well they manage their batteries. Also, home charging is fine for the most part but, if you need to road trip and stop for a charge, some EVs take longer than others to get back up to 80%.

The latest and greatest EVs are better but, even a few EVs out there have limited charge rate capabilities.

Researching this kind of stuff takes up considerably time and often just abandon the idea until I’m board again and start checking things out again. 😆


Tesla Y/3, favouring Y as the boss prefers SUV seat height over conventional car. Her girlfriend has a Mach E that left a favourable impression. Told her it’s not quite the height of CUV/SUV and if she likes the Ford, the Tesla 3 should be looked at. Still get a bit of side eye from the idea.

Extended ranges and AWD in any case. The Ford is cheaper but, for the reasons mentioned above.
A few of my friends have the Mach-E and they all absolutely love it! My biggest regret with the Maverick is not going with the Mach-E due to the commute.

I'm actually tempted to buy one for my wife as she can use it for work and it would fit the 3 kids in the back fairly easily, but she's got a lead foot.

Just found a used 2012 Leaf for $2500 and the guy says he gets 90km out of a 10 bar battery life.... @Relax you're looking for a cheap entry point!
 
A few of my friends have the Mach-E and they all absolutely love it! My biggest regret with the Maverick is not going with the Mach-E due to the commute.

I'm actually tempted to buy one for my wife as she can use it for work and it would fit the 3 kids in the back fairly easily, but she's got a lead foot.

Just found a used 2012 Leaf for $2500 and the guy says he gets 90km out of a 10 bar battery life.... @Relax you're looking for a cheap entry point!
That would make a heated go cart for the farm that range would be a little unsettling to take anywhere.

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