Any GTAM'ers own an electric vehicle?

My search showed 250-300 miles…not kms. Unless I’m very wrong.
You're not wrong. Don't listen to the "I heard/think" people. Friend of mine loves his and his ER gets 500km on a full charge (as long as he keeps the speed in check).
IMO buying a new one with a cheap negotiated long-term warranty would be the way to go and I think the prices on them will go down significantly to move them.
I wonder what will happen to the Mach-E now.
 
Ford has made no mention of the Mach-E as a platform for anything else whereas GM has numerous offerings under the Ultium platform.

I test drove the 2024 Mach E, among others. Loved the looks but it was a bit smaller than I wanted rear seating wise, and it had god-awful rear gear/motor whine, especially at speed. Also, no heat pump was available until 2025.
 
As GG points out, a TO to MTL run would need a midway hot charge while you grab a coffee and change your diaper. Not a big deal but around the city the driver has to understand the battery is like a credit card with a very low limit. Sixty percent of card holders don't pay them off at the end of the month.

Away from home charging can be like getting a payday loan at $0.65 a Kw hour.

There are several festering issues.

1) Capital cost justification. The premium price doesn't work for me.

2) Battery anxiety / fire seems to be ebbing and would ebb faster if there were independent shops servicing the cars and batteries. The manufacturers have a dilemma. Sharing the market helps the market but hurts their monopoly.

3) When the manufacturers start bailing out the market collapses. The stigma will last for a long time, well after the cause of the stink has been resolved.

There are to many promise breaker CEOs and politicians in charge of the unicorn transporters.
I wonder how the H-D execs and suits feel about the Livewire debacle? Maybe the big , once again, shakeup at Harley will scrap the whole thing.
 
I wonder how the H-D execs and suits feel about the Livewire debacle? Maybe the big , once again, shakeup at Harley will scrap the whole thing.
I can't see a path forward for Livewire. They are a dumpster fire from every angle. I don't see a path to desirability or profitability (other than some government green boondoggle but Trump isn't interested in that crap and Brookfield doesn't own HD so neither is Carney).
 
You're not wrong. Don't listen to the "I heard/think" people. Friend of mine loves his and his ER gets 500km on a full charge (as long as he keeps the speed in check).
IMO buying a new one with a cheap negotiated long-term warranty would be the way to go and I think the prices on them will go down significantly to move them.
I wonder what will happen to the Mach-E now.
My local dealer had 2 in stock with 10 grand off list, they sat for months with not even a bite on `em. Ford never should have called `em a Mustang either...Pinto maybe. :p
 
Ford has made no mention of the Mach-E as a platform for anything else whereas GM has numerous offerings under the Ultium platform.

I test drove the 2024 Mach E, among others. Loved the looks but it was a bit smaller than I wanted rear seating wise, and it had god-awful rear gear/motor whine, especially at speed. Also, no heat pump was available until 2025.
My only regret with buying the Maverick is not buying the Mach-E.

For me it’s one of the best EVs around and with Doug forcing us back to office 5 days / week the insurance premium would promptly be negated with the gas savings.

Ah well. Thanks Doug.
 
You're not wrong. Don't listen to the "I heard/think" people. Friend of mine loves his and his ER gets 500km on a full charge (as long as he keeps the speed in check).
IMO buying a new one with a cheap negotiated long-term warranty would be the way to go and I think the prices on them will go down significantly to move them.
I wonder what will happen to the Mach-E now.
Many years ago there was a consumer protection law that said an auto manufacturer had to guarantee parts availability for a given number of years, 10 to 15 years. It was complex. Obviously a bankruptcy flushes the toilet.
 
Many years ago there was a consumer protection law that said an auto manufacturer had to guarantee parts availability for a given number of years, 10 to 15 years. It was complex. Obviously a bankruptcy flushes the toilet.
I think this is urban myth.
 
I think this is urban myth.
I found some stuff out of California and it was a mixed bag. Buy backs were one of the options. Studebaker stopped manufacturing cars in Canada in 1966 and it sticks in my mind that some parts supply agreement was in place for seven years. Most cars were rust buckets by then and not worth fixing even if parts were available. Was Studebaker using GM drive trains?

The EV issue is more complex due to the premium price and expectation of a long service life.

It can happen with ICE as well. Not too long ago there were lots full of new vehicles that were unsaleable due to a chip shortage but there was light at the end of the tunnel. With EVs, the light is flickering.
 
I found some stuff out of California and it was a mixed bag. Buy backs were one of the options. Studebaker stopped manufacturing cars in Canada in 1966 and it sticks in my mind that some parts supply agreement was in place for seven years. Most cars were rust buckets by then and not worth fixing even if parts were available. Was Studebaker using GM drive trains?

The EV issue is more complex due to the premium price and expectation of a long service life.

It can happen with ICE as well. Not too long ago there were lots full of new vehicles that were unsaleable due to a chip shortage but there was light at the end of the tunnel. With EVs, the light is flickering.
Sort of. Some Hyundai/Kia and some Fords are like Hyosung and basically garbage out of warranty. They have terminal engine or transmission issues that require replacement every few years. Even if parts are available from manufacturer, price precludes using them. Not many buybacks as they string out the buyers to get past lemon law window.
 
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