Would be really nice across Canada
High speed trains
- Thread starter Baggsy
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Would be awesome. Will never happen here.
Don’t care how many billions the Liberals throw at it starting with JT. It’ll be a dumpster fire of wasted money sadly.
Don’t care how many billions the Liberals throw at it starting with JT. It’ll be a dumpster fire of wasted money sadly.
I've ridden some of those trains and 300kph in a train feels way slower than 200kph on a bike.
guzzirider
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Everybody thought the Concord was a good idea until it wasn't.
We don't even have slow speed passenger rail in most of Canada anymore.
Canada is far more than the Windsor - Quebec City corridor.
We don't even have slow speed passenger rail in most of Canada anymore.
Canada is far more than the Windsor - Quebec City corridor.
Given the boondoggle of costs for Canada to install anything, financially any high speed rail will be a disaster. With optimistic numbers, cost of a train trip will be double cost of a flight and it will be far slower. That means either nobody takes it or it is subsidized at a crazy level (many hundreds of tax dollars subsidy per passenger trip).
Glenn/RZ500
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California began a high speed train in `08, SF to LA. The cost was set at 33 billion, to be completed in`28. Now it`s up to 135B...and only partially complete in the late 2030`s. Here would be the same idea.
sburns
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That seems slow, the one in Spain hits 300 k, BCN to MAD and takes a couple of hours with a few stops, like TO to OTT.
Either way it's better then anything we have here.
We can keep dreaming of better things, but with our corrupt gov that does nothing but pillage tax payers, a dream all it is.
Crosstown here still isn't running....
Either way it's better then anything we have here.
We can keep dreaming of better things, but with our corrupt gov that does nothing but pillage tax payers, a dream all it is.
Crosstown here still isn't running....
If we can get the Eglington cross town guys to build it at just under a mile per year we could be going from Halifax to Vancouver by 5025.
sburns
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That is way to optimistic
There is simply not enough density of people in Canada along with the rest of impediments.
Took a while even for New York to Washington.
Will be less expensive and faster to hop an electric short hop plane.
It's early yet tho. This has promise
No right of way costs to incur. Uses existing flying fields - fleets can be scaled to need.
The battery tech needs to go further, but lighter solid state batteries are near term and the hybrid form factor is a sensible approach.
This is another in the works and larger passenger capacity at 30 people.
Took a while even for New York to Washington.
Will be less expensive and faster to hop an electric short hop plane.
It's early yet tho. This has promise
Electra secures 2200 aircraft pre-orders for hybrid-electric aviation leap
Los Angeles CA (SPX) Mar 20, 2025 - Electra.aero, Inc. (Electra), a trailblazer in the Direct Aviation sector, has received 2,200 pre-orders for its EL9 Ultra Short hybrid-electric aircraft. This order volume, valued close to $9 billi
www.spacewar.com
No right of way costs to incur. Uses existing flying fields - fleets can be scaled to need.
The battery tech needs to go further, but lighter solid state batteries are near term and the hybrid form factor is a sensible approach.
This is another in the works and larger passenger capacity at 30 people.
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guzzirider
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A Zoom meeting happens at 270,000 km per second.
The days of sales calls are long dead.
Why should EVERYBODY pay more taxes to support a few people in a hurry.
There was a proposal to build a high speed link between Edmonton and Calgary.
It was a straight flat run on existing railway owned land going thru very few towns.
Taken in the time you spent getting to the station, checking in, travelling the distance,
getting your luggage and the getting to your final destination was going to take as much time as to just
drive your car. It was determined that it was not a viable project.
Being sensible Red Neck Albertans the project never got off the ground.
When I was planning my trip to Europe I would be leaving my motorcycle in Germany
and taking the train to Paris for the flight back to Calgary.
I deliberately booked the SLOW train so I would see more of the people and country.
The days of sales calls are long dead.
Why should EVERYBODY pay more taxes to support a few people in a hurry.
There was a proposal to build a high speed link between Edmonton and Calgary.
It was a straight flat run on existing railway owned land going thru very few towns.
Taken in the time you spent getting to the station, checking in, travelling the distance,
getting your luggage and the getting to your final destination was going to take as much time as to just
drive your car. It was determined that it was not a viable project.
Being sensible Red Neck Albertans the project never got off the ground.
When I was planning my trip to Europe I would be leaving my motorcycle in Germany
and taking the train to Paris for the flight back to Calgary.
I deliberately booked the SLOW train so I would see more of the people and country.
That looks like something out of Grand Theft Auto 3There is simply not enough density of people in Canada along with the rest of impediments.
Took a while even for New York to Washington.
Will be less expensive and faster to hop an electric short hop plane.
It's early yet tho. This has promiseView attachment 73840
Electra secures 2200 aircraft pre-orders for hybrid-electric aviation leap
Los Angeles CA (SPX) Mar 20, 2025 - Electra.aero, Inc. (Electra), a trailblazer in the Direct Aviation sector, has received 2,200 pre-orders for its EL9 Ultra Short hybrid-electric aircraft. This order volume, valued close to $9 billiwww.spacewar.com
No right of way costs to incur. Uses existing flying fields - fleets can be scaled to need.
The battery tech needs to go further, but lighter solid state batteries are near term and the hybrid form factor is a sensible approach.
This is another in the works and larger passenger capacity at 30 people.
I’m just thinking that I’d be travelling to Toronto more often if it was 2 1/2 - 3 hours and more reliable.
Roaming through Tuscany has me thinking of @mimico_polak.
Roaming through Tuscany has me thinking of @mimico_polak.
If it was 2.5 hours, reliable and $500+ a ticket, how often would you use it? With the amount they will spend, that price will be in the ballpark for them to break even.
The Concorde proper as it exists is never coming back. There was such a supply chain of all of the special parts and supplies that was required specifically for that aircraft (and that aircraft alone) that no longer exists, and in many cases a lot of the products like special oils and such aren’t even being produced anymore such as several of the fluids and tires, just Onstar. Along with the airframes being grounded for so many years, and some of them being exposed to the elements, it’s virtually a 100% certainty none of them will ever fly again, or if they did would be under experimental or ferry rules and never be able to carry passengers. The cost to even accomplish that would be stratospheric, and with no commercial viability even then, who would spend this sort of money? Look at the Harvard that flies out of Hamilton, the costs to keep even that airplane in the air every year and certified for passengers is stratospheric, and that wouldn’t even come close to even the tip of the iceberg to get a Concorde flying again.
There are some new supersonic passenger jets on the drawing boards, at least one that is now flying in small scale models, but as far as I know nothing actually confirmed, much less being manufactured
