Considering a second bike

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nakkers said:
A little curve ball to consider would be a Triumph Street Triple 765 in the 2015 range. Likely just as rare to find a clean example vs a Duc Monster but, definitely a nice flickable, knock around the garage second machine to play with.

Arguable less appealing that a Duc with the bug eyes but rewarding sound track and fun around town. 🤷‍♂️
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hmmmmm. Ok, I see you.
 
nakkers said:
A little curve ball to consider would be a Triumph Street Triple 765 in the 2015 range. Likely just as rare to find a clean example vs a Duc Monster but, definitely a nice flickable, knock around the garage second machine to play with.

Arguable less appealing that a Duc with the bug eyes but rewarding sound track and fun around town.
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Street triples are 675cc until 2017.

I love mine. Plenty of power. Light. Handles great. Insurance on the 675 was half the cost of the newer 765. TD considered the 765 a "sport bike"... but not the 675??? I can handle 10-15hp less for half the insurance cost.

100hp is the sweet spot for an engaging middleweight.

Mt-07 would have scratched the itch too. Horsepower is less than ideal, but its torquey. Suspension and brakes are awful though... my Street triple 675r has great brakes and suspension.

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matt365 said:
R9T is nearly 500lbs.

They do look nice.

If I were you, I'd be going for light weight. Likely naked. Opposite of your current faired tourer.

Fun and flickable.

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I know. It's the ease of the boxer that I am already familiar with. I also like the final drive not being a chain or belt.

This is just the beginning of this dance and those light, naked bikes are looking better the more I dig in.
 
JZ67 said:
I know. It's the ease of the boxer that I am already familiar with. I also like the final drive not being a chain or belt.

This is just the beginning of this dance and those light, naked bikes are looking better the more I dig in.
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Nakeds are a very versatile around town option or back road shredders, just be prepared to become a giant sail on the highway.
 
I’m absolutely in love with the Monster 1200 — the Termi sound, the handling, and the way it just gets better the faster you go.
I’ve been toying with the idea of selling mine, mostly because I’ve started taking longer trips and could use something a bit more comfortable.
If you’re around the Toronto area, you’re welcome to check it out in person.
 
Lightcycle said:
Don't have much experience with the FZ1, but I've followed one around for a few rides... ;) On paper, it seems a bit on the heavy side, ~500 lbs.
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I’ve only ridden the 1st gen FZ1 ( new version came out in 2006 and shaved 20lbs off the bike).

My 1st gen is not really a light or flickable bike, as it’s 509 lbs wet weight in stock form, but that might feel like a perfect weight compared to your current ride. It is a very fun bike to ride and I’m super happy with it.

When I’ve ridden with others on the newer naked Yammies, those bikes seem much lighter, compact and flickable vomited to mine. Same goes for the Triumphs mentioned.

The Rninety does not look like a comfortable bike unless you are flexible. My knees and hips would die.

I agree with the duke suggestions, the naked yammies and I personally love the look of the 1200 Monsters.
 
Street triple 675r is claimed 403lbs wet.

Mt-07 is nearly identical in weight 406lbs.

Duke 790 is 412-417lbs wet.

Duke 890 lost 6 or 7 pounds from the 790.

At hta172 speeds, you'd feel like your getting pulled off the bike. Its for sure a wind sail. Keeps you honest.

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PacoT said:
I’m absolutely in love with the Monster 1200 — the Termi sound, the handling, and the way it just gets better the faster you go.
I’ve been toying with the idea of selling mine, mostly because I’ve started taking longer trips and could use something a bit more comfortable.
If you’re around the Toronto area, you’re welcome to check it out in person.
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what are you thinking?
 
Saw an RnineT on marketplace close by. Sat on it and if feels right. The difference in weight between the R1200RT and the RnineT is substantial even if it was just in the driveway. I think the seller is being cheeky with their asking and the first thing out after hello was my price is firm.

So, it is no coincidence that I mention that I am considering a second bike and my wife seems to have new landscaping plans.
 
JZ67 said:
Saw an RnineT on marketplace close by. Sat on it and if feels right. The difference in weight between the R1200RT and the RnineT is substantial even if it was just in the driveway. I think the seller is being cheeky with their asking and the first thing out after hello was my price is firm.

So, it is no coincidence that I mention that I am considering a second bike and my wife seems to have new landscaping plans.
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Once you decide on the bike, wait.

Good deals pop up in Jan/Feb with people that find themselves underwater after the holidays.

That's how I scored my Ducati 796 for 4500 bucks.
 
Wingboy said:
I have owned 4. Did all my own maintenance, never had an issue. The Internet is fickle.
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Samesies. I put 40,000km trouble-free on my 1200S Ducati Multistrada and it's one of the few bikes I truly miss and would happily buy another. It's by far the one with the most character and the only one that I felt that there was something special about it (likely that every piece is truly designed and finished with detail from the mirrors to the grips, etc). To not want one because of internet crying would be a pity.
 
I rode around on my ninja 300 for a few weeks exclusively by choice and switching back to my 790 Duke made me appreciate it all the more. Yeah, what I'm saying is not go as low as a 300, but you'll definitely remind yourself of what you love of your R1200RT if you spend some time on the antithesis of it.

The more drastic, the more pronounced it is. But both bikes need to be good too.

I only included the MT-07 because its' suspension is so bad it becomes hillarious fun and its Japanese so reliability and etc. As an owner of, I'd still go with a KTM Duke but a Street Triple is the same difference. Good enough street suspension right out of the box. You just don't want so much power you'll leave it in 2nd or 3rd for everything otherwise you'll be back at the idea of your R1200RT.

To put it in car terms, it's like having a non M BMW 7-series and a Toyota GR86 in the garage, both choices for your day's ride in mind.
 
The maddening part of threads like this is that while a rider shops for an extra bike the insurance company execs shop for bigger BMWs from the multiple premiums they collect.

I once had three bikes all licensed and insured.

I was prepared to sign that no one else rode my bikes.

They were all stored in the same spot.

I understand that three bikes is triple the theft risk so I'm OK with a premium on that.

Medical coverage is the biggest part of the premium and I can only ride one bike at a time so can only get injured once so why the triple full medical coverage insurance?

Wawanesa Insurance was founded by a couple of farmers fed up with getting ripped off by eastern insurers. It would be nice to do that today but the costs and legislation to start a new insurance company in Ontario would make it impossible. I wonder what magnitude of millions would be needed to fund a Biker's Insurance Cooperative.

I'm guessing half or more of the startup money would be for bribes and lobbying.
 
@bigpoppa

I’ve completely drunk the Ducati Kool-Aid — the Testastretta 11° engine is just amazing. I’m dead set on a 2010–2012 Multistrada 1200, but insurance prices are ridiculous right now. So, most likely, I’ll end up with a 950 Multi once prices make more sense — and maybe a track bike on the side.
 
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Reliability means different things to different people. I consider all of my bikes to be reliable, but then I consider everything to be "wear and tear" items and don't get upset when something breaks and needs to be replaced.

That said, who needs a reliable bike as a second motorycle that's also a third vehicle to a car??? Life is a short. Test ride them all and buy the one(s) that stirs your soul.
 
Re: smaller displacement bikes

Was at the Gap one year and there was a small group of supermotos there who went out together. Like, proper 450cc thumpers - super-light, great low-end grunt, wide bars for leverage, oodles of steering angle from lock-to-lock, short wheelbase for fast direction changes - they ticked all the boxes for what makes a bike flickable. They looked like they were having a blast with all that leg-out action. That kind of tight, twisty tarmac with little-to-no high-speed sweepers were custom-made for those kinds of bikes.

Now... getting *TO* the Gap would have been torturous, but they obviously trailered down there.

If you're not doing highway and you have easy access to those kinds of roads, rowing through the gears of a sumo would be a great choice. Maybe even a higher displacement sumo like a Duc 698 or KTM/Husky 690/701 if you needed a bit more grunt on the open road. But the key is that over-the-top power-to-weight ratio - 250 lbs of motorcycle paired with 50 hp is just pure, unadulterated fun!
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