Daily sports car?

Looking to replace the F-Type already?

Uh.....

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I have a real nice 2004, low mileage Z4. If I was looking for an affordable classic sports car it would be a Z3 all day long. It’s a classic 2 seater that will hold its value or maybe even appreciate. The Mazda MX-5 is also a great car, probably fewer problems than the BMW but a nice Z3 is not as common and has a little more class. There still some low mileage , original owner examples out there but they’re harder to find.

I have fringe tastes in most things.

Back in the early 2000s, BMW released a series of short movies called "The Hire" directed by big names like, like John Woo and starring celebrities like Madonna. The main character was played by a very young Clive Owen who was a Transporter-like character. Most of them were quite good and had amazing chase/driving sequences.

One episode was called, "Hostage" and it featured the Z4.


I was sold instantly.

When the Z4 first came out, it was universally hated by car critics and enthusiasts. Designed by Chris Bangle and featuring his controversial "flame surfacing" treatment, it had a very modern, radical look that totally appealed to me.

I already had a sports car in the garage at the time that I already pledged undying love for, so I never did pull the trigger on one. I would totally get a 2002ish-era Z4 if I ever got into cars again and could find a pristine example.

Maybe when I age out of motorcycles. Right now, if I had an extra $50K lying around, I'd just get another bike (or two).

Or a membership at a private track...
 
Using a membership at a track requires you to stay in one place for a while. It sucks to have that much money sunk into something that you can't use often as you are having so much fun adventuring around the world.

Yep, key words are "extra $50K lying around", money that I wouldn't miss.

However, here I am, without a sports car or a track membership... :cry:
 
I have fringe tastes in most things.

Back in the early 2000s, BMW released a series of short movies called "The Hire" directed by big names like, like John Woo and starring celebrities like Madonna. The main character was played by a very young Clive Owen who was a Transporter-like character. Most of them were quite good and had amazing chase/driving sequences.

One episode was called, "Hostage" and it featured the Z4.


I was sold instantly.

When the Z4 first came out, it was universally hated by car critics and enthusiasts. Designed by Chris Bangle and featuring his controversial "flame surfacing" treatment, it had a very modern, radical look that totally appealed to me.

I already had a sports car in the garage at the time that I already pledged undying love for, so I never did pull the trigger on one. I would totally get a 2002ish-era Z4 if I ever got into cars again and could find a pristine example.

Maybe when I age out of motorcycles. Right now, if I had an extra $50K lying around, I'd just get another bike (or two).

Or a membership at a private track...
Yes, the jury was out for a while on the styling of the Z4 but I think it’s aged quite well. I love mine but it’s a little bigger and heavier than the Z3. The Z3 is much rarer and more of a purists sports car. I don’t think you can go wrong if you get a clean low mileage one. My goal is always to find a car that you can enjoy driving for a few years and break even when you sell it .Yes, an MX-5 is an awesome, more dependable comparable car but is a little bit soulless. Kind of like some Honda motorcycles, very refined with smooth linear power delivery and handling that they’re actually kind of boring to ride compared to say a Ducati or Kawasaki sport bike. I had a Honda ST1300 that was a fantastic bike in all respects, it did everything well to the point it was dull, I could never learn to love that bike. I felt like I was driving my Dad’s Buick. I probably would have been much happier on the older, less refined ST1100 for a fraction of the price but you live and learn.
 
Yes, the jury was out for a while on the styling of the Z4 but I think it’s aged quite well. I love mine but it’s a little bigger and heavier than the Z3. The Z3 is much rarer and more of a purists sports car. I don’t think you can go wrong if you get a clean low mileage one. My goal is always to find a car that you can enjoy driving for a few years and break even when you sell it .Yes, an MX-5 is an awesome, more dependable comparable car but is a little bit soulless. Kind of like some Honda motorcycles, very refined with smooth linear power delivery and handling that they’re actually kind of boring to ride compared to say a Ducati or Kawasaki sport bike. I had a Honda ST1300 that was a fantastic bike in all respects, it did everything well to the point it was dull, I could never learn to love that bike. I felt like I was driving my Dad’s Buick. I probably would have been much happier on the older, less refined ST1100 for a fraction of the price but you live and learn.
aka... it is better in every way and that is why it is not as good.
 
Yes, the jury was out for a while on the styling of the Z4 but I think it’s aged quite well. I love mine but it’s a little bigger and heavier than the Z3. The Z3 is much rarer and more of a purists sports car. I don’t think you can go wrong if you get a clean low mileage one. My goal is always to find a car that you can enjoy driving for a few years and break even when you sell it .Yes, an MX-5 is an awesome, more dependable comparable car but is a little bit soulless. Kind of like some Honda motorcycles, very refined with smooth linear power delivery and handling that they’re actually kind of boring to ride compared to say a Ducati or Kawasaki sport bike. I had a Honda ST1300 that was a fantastic bike in all respects, it did everything well to the point it was dull, I could never learn to love that bike. I felt like I was driving my Dad’s Buick. I probably would have been much happier on the older, less refined ST1100 for a fraction of the price but you live and learn.
Sounds like you’ve never driven a Buick.
 
it did everything well to the point it was dull, I could never learn to love that bike
Ride it faster! Yeah, i know, I face the same thing sometimes with the 911, but I find joy in just feeling it supports whatever task I give it.

But I sold my 4-cylinder street bikes. The Super Duke manages to regularly scare me @#$&less and I find myself laughing in the helmet at the pure absurdity of a bike with that much torque in a (relatively) lightweight package. I've owned many motorcycles with more power, but none with more ridiculousness. Maybe my KX 420 would give it a shot (if you ever rode one, you know how little handling went with the giant motor).
 
aka... it is better in every way and that is why it is not as good.
Yes, exactly. Throttle by wire fuel injection, abs, traction control are all things that make me feel disconnected from the whole riding/driving experience. I don’t care for most of it. Sometimes a simple malfunction can also cost more to repair than the value of the bike or car. 90% of my automotive repair bills in the last 10 years have been some kind of electronic malfunction , I guess that’s progress.
 
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I have fringe tastes in most things.

Back in the early 2000s, BMW released a series of short movies called "The Hire" directed by big names like, like John Woo and starring celebrities like Madonna. The main character was played by a very young Clive Owen who was a Transporter-like character. Most of them were quite good and had amazing chase/driving sequences.

One episode was called, "Hostage" and it featured the Z4.


I was sold instantly.

When the Z4 first came out, it was universally hated by car critics and enthusiasts. Designed by Chris Bangle and featuring his controversial "flame surfacing" treatment, it had a very modern, radical look that totally appealed to me.

I already had a sports car in the garage at the time that I already pledged undying love for, so I never did pull the trigger on one. I would totally get a 2002ish-era Z4 if I ever got into cars again and could find a pristine example.

Maybe when I age out of motorcycles. Right now, if I had an extra $50K lying around, I'd just get another bike (or two).

Or a membership at a private track...
Neighbour has a pretty clean Z3 for sale but trunk space is just too tiny. I'd likely pick up a newish Miata to play with for a while and wife would love one but again there's no trunk so it's a no.
The Z4 M40 thingy (sorry, I can't keep up with all the different sub models) might be better but there's none close to me to check out.
 
Not sure if it’s considered a sports car, but we might look at the Alfa Romeo Tonale Veloce hybrid, when we begin our new car buying process.
 
Something you don't see every day.

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G63? Dime a dozen..unless its a Brabus..saw one in person getting the ghost immobilizer put on the Jag. Gorgeous!
 
Neighbour has a pretty clean Z3 for sale but trunk space is just too tiny. I'd likely pick up a newish Miata to play with for a while and wife would love one but again there's no trunk so it's a no.
The Z4 M40 thingy (sorry, I can't keep up with all the different sub models) might be better but there's none close to me to check out.
Z4 M40i - big boy engine, also comes in an M30i? 2.0 turbo iirc.

Available in manual starting this year, but loaded its north of $85k

It runs on the same chassis as the Toyota Supra. Which i would also recommend but they are holding value north of $55k last i saw. Although they came out with a manual for that 2? years ago as well.
 
Not sure if it’s considered a sports car, but we might look at the Alfa Romeo Tonale Veloce hybrid, when we begin our new car buying process.
nice! I haven't looked at Alfa in awhile but their Quadrifoglio spec is the enthusiast variant. Available on the Giulia and Stelvio (SUV)
 
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