DownUnder
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Place went from being one of the most dangerous places on earth to one of the safest in less then a decade. If you ask any normal person on the street they would say its money well spent.
Law Enforcement - The Good, The Bad, The Ugly.....
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I was thinking of the wrong country. I had El Salvador in my head. Then again you're definitely talking about a different standard for prisons in pretty much any Central/South American country.
Gaoler
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Our problem is we don't have the stomach for treating some people the way they should be treated.
Many refuse to believe there are people who are beyond redemption.
It's pretty sad, but sometimes you run across a case where there's no net benefit to letting someone back into society at large.
Many refuse to believe there are people who are beyond redemption.
It's pretty sad, but sometimes you run across a case where there's no net benefit to letting someone back into society at large.
The El Salvador maxi prison will have innocent people incarcerated for a couple of years, which is wrong.
Our system lets everyone out until proven guilty in court, so masses of potential perpetrators are set free to reoffend, which is wrong.
El Salvador says some innocents will suffer but it's for the overall good of the country.
Canada says some innocents will suffer but it's for the overall good of the country.
Do you favour punishing people that were arrested "Under suspicion" or favour punishing people with no suspicious behavior?
Remember. It's for the good of the country.
The ultimate FAFO consequence.
I'm an adherent to the Blackstone Principle.
I had to look it up.
The Blackstone principle, often summarized as "better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer," emphasizes the importance of protecting the innocent in the legal system. It asserts that the presumption of innocence is a fundamental right, meaning that an accused person is considered innocent until proven guilty. This principle is crucial in ensuring that wrongful convictions are minimized, as it prioritizes the rights of individuals over the potential punishment of the guilty. Additionally, it has been influential in shaping modern legal systems and is often referenced in discussions about justice and morality in law.
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How would you explain that to the Salvadorans when the ten guilty shut down the education system because kids are afraid of going to school because they get mugged enroute for their shoes, lunch money, watches etc?
It would be interesting to get the opinions of Salvadorans who know a wrongly imprisoned person but at the same time, are enjoying the new peace and freedom.
Think long term. The politicians are doing diddly squat with the problem and our drug, crime, homeless situation is getting worse.
The Blackstone principle has limits.
Yes, and those limits would extend to when you live in a virtual war zone. We aren't there.
"better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer,"
The Blackstone Principle falls spectacularly when you have cops blatantly ignoring peoples rights (or tell them they don't have any) while treating them as guilty automatically during traffic stops and inferred consensual discussions hundreds if not thousands of times daily.
