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Why I'd never buy a Ducati

Mad Mike

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Yeah? I'll bite.

What's the service internal (valve checks) on the monster vs a VFR? Don't worry i already looked.

Monster 696 - 12k
VFR 800 - 24k
The difference between the two is the Monster will likely need service , it's common for VFRs too hit 100K without adjustments.
 

Trials

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Everybody has their problems "The VFR R/R failure on the pre-2000 VFRs is legendary among VFR owners."
 

GreyGhost

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And it has screw/nut valve adjusters...
I love screw/nut adjusters. The character of a bike can change greatly when playing with valve clearance (even while staying in spec). You get to try lots of combinations quickly and easily with the screw/nut. With shims, you probably only bother to adjust when out of spec due to the time &cost.
 

r3r3r3

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Does anyone have any experience with the 916/996/998? I’ve been slowly looking for a second “weekend” bike and these are pretty appealing. Besides the typical Ducati maintenance schedule it seems like they were pretty well made bikes minus a few smaller issues (flaking camshafts, timing belt issues).

There is a few out there for sale with questionable service records. Ideally I’d like to pick one up for a steal in the fall and have a bit of a project throughout the Winter. All the user reviews I’ve read points to them being very easy to work on. If I plan on doing a deep dive /refresh of the engine is there anything I should really be concerned about?
 

Mad Mike

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Does anyone have any experience with the 916/996/998? I’ve been slowly looking for a second “weekend” bike and these are pretty appealing. Besides the typical Ducati maintenance schedule it seems like they were pretty well made bikes minus a few smaller issues (flaking camshafts, timing belt issues).

There is a few out there for sale with questionable service records. Ideally I’d like to pick one up for a steal in the fall and have a bit of a project throughout the Winter. All the user reviews I’ve read points to them being very easy to work on. If I plan on doing a deep dive /refresh of the engine is there anything I should really be concerned about?
Don’t under estimate the parts cost to refresh.
Everybody has their problems "The VFR R/R failure on the pre-2000 VFRs is legendary among VFR owners."
That's a $25 (aftermarket) to $100 (OE) plug in part. I costs a hair more to to fix a de-chromed Desmo valve train.
 

TK4

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Ken's Motorworks will lay it all out for you.
Full tuneup on a Desmo twin (if it needs belts) will run you $1000-1200 minimum.
And he's the best.
 

iblastoff

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had a recall on my ducati scrambler last year. took it to maranello. was in and out in a few hours.
love the bike but if i ever get rid of it, it'd probably be due to always being a pain in the ass finding neutral on a ducati.
 

Wingboy

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had a recall on my ducati scrambler last year. took it to maranello. was in and out in a few hours.
love the bike but if i ever get rid of it, it'd probably be due to always being a pain in the ass finding neutral on a ducati.
Your clutch is dragging. Not normal. How many kms? Is it a dry or wet clutch?Oem clutch lever?
I've never had an issue finding neutral on any of the Ducs i have owned.
 
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iblastoff

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Your clutch is dragging. Not normal. How many kms? Is it a dry or wet clutch?
I've never had an issue finding neutral on any of the Ducs i have owned.
about 12000km. wet clutch. i seem to able to find it better in cold weather. in the summer, its tougher. its not impossible to find it, but certainly not as smooth as when i had a suzuki. on ducati forums some people mentioned it as a ducati characteristic. some people also seem to think it might be my aftermarket adjustable Evotech clutch lever. i've tried adjusting freeplay on it multiple times!
 

TK4

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about 12000km. wet clutch. i seem to able to find it better in cold weather. in the summer, its tougher. its not impossible to find it, but certainly not as smooth as when i had a suzuki. on ducati forums some people mentioned it as a ducati characteristic. some people also seem to think it might be my aftermarket adjustable Evotech clutch lever. i've tried adjusting freeplay on it multiple times!
Put the stock lever back on and see if it still acts up ?
 

250R-ICE

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The one option I use is do a light tap down from 2nd gear. This works most of the time. So for example, if you are at stop condition and you tried a light tap from 1st trying to get into neutral. You would now be in 2nd. Instead of a hard tap going back down to first. Just do a light down tap. I find finding neutral more difficult in the cold or when the bike hasn't warmed up yet.
 

Ducati Dude

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2015 MTS/S here.... Absolutely no regrets buying her. There have been a few minor issues and one major issue. Each remedied under warranty.

The major issue was that she intermittently went into a 'Safe Mode' while riding, which limited max speed. Also, on three occasions, the bike lost total throttle... engine still running but no throttle control. Once, I lost throttle in the middle of an intersection, stranded partially in the oncoming lane. Lucky for me, there were no cars approaching at the time. I was able to push her into a No-Mans-Land, power down and restart. With both the Safe Mode and the throttle loss, I was able get the bike going again by powering down, and restarting.

This issue first appeared with 1K on the clock. I immediately took her to the Dealer and explained what had happened. The Tech said to give it a while to see if the problem would remedy itself... poss a glitch. Two years later (May 2017), and multiple 'Safe Mode' occurences/throttle losses. I'd had enough. I was ready to give her back for a 'Full Refund"... as this was a Major Safety Issue. I gave them one more crack at it before blowing my top. The Tech's had her online with the boys in Italy, They 'Finally' discovered that the Accelerometer was faulty. They replaced the part under warranty and has been Awesome since.

Never had an issue finding Neutral. Tranny is super smooth.

Desmo service at 30K...

The only issue since the Accelerometer was replaced was a leaking left fork. Happened on the way home from picking the bike up from the Accelerometer replacement. Used a Seal Mate to clean out the fork seal... hasn't leaked since.

Work that I have done myself... Oil/Filter, Coolant/Brake Flushes and Brake Pads...

No regrets... 🙂👍
 
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Evoex

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2015 MTS/S here.... Absolutely no regrets buying her. There have been a few minor issues and one major issue. Each remedied under warranty.

The major issue was that she intermittently went into a 'Safe Mode' while riding, which limited max speed. Also, on three occasions, the bike lost total throttle... engine still running but no throttle control. Once, I lost throttle in the middle of an intersection, stranded partially in the oncoming lane. Lucky for me, there were no cars approaching at the time. I was able to push her into a No-Mans-Land, power down and restart. With both the Safe Mode and the throttle loss, I was able get the bike going again by powering down, and restarting.

This issue first appeared with 1K on the clock. I immediately took her to the Dealer and explained what had happened. The Tech said to give it a while to see if the problem would remedy itself... poss a glitch. Two years later (May 2017), and multiple 'Safe Mode' occurences/throttle losses. I'd had enough. I was ready to give her back for a 'Full Refund"... as this was a Major Safety Issue. I gave them one more crack at it before blowing my top. The Tech's had her online with the boys in Italy, They 'Finally' discovered that the Accelerometer was faulty. They replaced the part under warranty and has been Awesome since.

Never had an issue finding Neutral. Tranny is super smooth.

Desmo service at 30K...

Have not had an issue since the Accelerometer was replaced.

Work that I have done myself... Oil/Filter, Coolant/Brake Flushes and Brake Pads...

No regrets... 🙂👍
Glad you came out OK, id imagine you'd have a few if it had gone the other way.

I doubt that part failing is brand specific but still scary.
 

Hardwrkr13

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2015 MTS/S here.... Absolutely no regrets buying her. There have been a few minor issues and one major issue. Each remedied under warranty.

The major issue was that she intermittently went into a 'Safe Mode' while riding, which limited max speed. Also, on three occasions, the bike lost total throttle... engine still running but no throttle control. Once, I lost throttle in the middle of an intersection, stranded partially in the oncoming lane. Lucky for me, there were no cars approaching at the time. I was able to push her into a No-Mans-Land, power down and restart. With both the Safe Mode and the throttle loss, I was able get the bike going again by powering down, and restarting.

This issue first appeared with 1K on the clock. I immediately took her to the Dealer and explained what had happened. The Tech said to give it a while to see if the problem would remedy itself... poss a glitch. Two years later (May 2017), and multiple 'Safe Mode' occurences/throttle losses. I'd had enough. I was ready to give her back for a 'Full Refund"... as this was a Major Safety Issue. I gave them one more crack at it before blowing my top. The Tech's had her online with the boys in Italy, They 'Finally' discovered that the Accelerometer was faulty. They replaced the part under warranty and has been Awesome since.

Never had an issue finding Neutral. Tranny is super smooth.

Desmo service at 30K...

The only issue since the Accelerometer was replaced was a leaking left fork. Happened on the way home from picking the bike up from the Accelerometer replacement. Used a Seal Mate to clean out the fork seal... hasn't leaked since.

Work that I have done myself... Oil/Filter, Coolant/Brake Flushes and Brake Pads...

No regrets... 🙂👍
Love my 16 MTS/S. My Victory Magnum had a similar where it would lose all power by shutting off suddenly (known issue). It's actually a faulty cheap master breaker that gets water in it that's to blame. Mine shut off turning left at the intersection in Bancroft by the LCBO at slow speed which I barely saved. Easy peasy fix with $5 Napa breaker and 15minutes.
 

Ducati Dude

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I doubt that part failing is brand specific but still scary.
Nothing is Perfect... parts fail. All I ask is for the manufacturer to honor their warranty and fix the failure/problem. I have extended warranty until June 2021.

Yes... scary to think what would have happened if there was traffic coming at me in the opposite direction. Actually, if Ducati wasn't able to solve the problem and did not give me a 'Full Refund' on the bike... I was goinig to tell them that I was going to let all my family know that the bike has a 'Major Saftey Issue', and that Ducati was aware of the problem, and if I die as a a result, Ducati would be paying out Big $$$$$$ to my next of Kin. Thankfully, it didn't escalate to that point.
 

Ducati Dude

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Love my 16 MTS/S. My Victory Magnum had a similar where it would lose all power by shutting off suddenly (known issue). It's actually a faulty cheap master breaker that gets water in it that's to blame. Mine shut off turning left at the intersection in Bancroft by the LCBO at slow speed which I barely saved. Easy peasy fix with $5 Napa breaker and 15minutes.
Any issues with your Multistrada?
 

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