Two left turners: who has right of way?

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When two cars/bikes want to turn left at a perpendicular intersection, who has the right of way? There are no lights at the intersection. And, for the sake of clarity, let's assume both "A" and "B" do not have a stop sign.

I've always thought it was "A" (since "B" must yield to oncoming traffic), but can't find anything in the Driver's handbook to confirm this. Just the other day, I was "A" turning left, and "B" gave me the finger thinking he had the right of way.


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I would assume base on Canadian driving law, the vehicle in front should have the right away even during lane splitting because you are suppose to be in stagger position anyway no?, but that is base on my assumption therefore correct me if I am wrong.
 
Both stop at same time, vehicle to the right has right of way.

Edit wait, an intersection with no stop sign?
 
Right of way. Person to the right if both vehicles stopped at the same time. So in your scenario you were right (because you were "right").
 
Otay said:
I would assume base on Canadian driving law, the vehicle in front should have the right away even during lane splitting because you are suppose to be in stagger position anyway no?, but that is base on my assumption therefore correct me if I am wrong.
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I have no idea what the hell you are talking about.
 
A has the right of way unless there are stop signs and B stopped first.
B is entering a roadway and must yield to traffic on it.

Being A in similar situations I will always creep forward (as I would for a left in an intersection with lights) and take the turn in such a way that B can make their turn at the same time. We are both waiting for a gap in the same lane of traffic and there is no reason to hold them up. If there isn't traffic to wait for and no stop signs we are back to A always having priority.
 
Well, for starters, I have never ever seen an intersection where this would actually occur.
In the above intersection, car B would have a stop sign.

If both had a stop sign, then the car on the right "A" has the right of way.

But if this intersection actually did exist, I would say that car A has the right of way because car B is entering a stream of traffic, and it would be legal only when it is safe to do so.
 
You guys are funny. If you ride a bike around thinking your right of way means anything, get extra health insurance.
The correct answer, Alex, is C: the biggest vehicle has the right of way.
 
I get this regularly on my street where I am B except I have a stop sign. Many times A will stop and wait for me to proceed. I just sit there, making no eye contact, until they're fed up and finally make the turn. I only partially think I'm being set up for an insurance scam. Race shouldn't be an issue.
 
mikbusa said:
Edit wait, an intersection with no stop sign?
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Yeah, sorry. There is actually a stop sign at B, but didn't want to put another factor into the equation.

I've always proceeded like A had the right of way. But, I've had a few occasions (like yesterday) where B tries to make his turn first while I'm making mine. B tried to cut me off but couldn't and gave me the finger like I was in the wrong. Some ppl! But, CafeRay has a point: if A's a bike, then better let the car have the right of way.

And here's a link to the intersection(it's pretty common, obviously, but an actual picture might help).
 
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Princess's Man said:
Yeah, sorry. There is actually a stop sign at B, but didn't want to put another factor into the equation.

I've always proceeded like A had the right of way. But, I've had a few occasions (like yesterday) where B tries to make his turn first while I'm making mine. B tried to cut me off but couldn't and gave me the finger like I was in the wrong. Some ppl! But, CafeRay has a point: if A's a bike, then better let the car have the right of way.

And here's a link to the intersection (it's pretty common, obviously, but an actual picture might help).
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Did you see his facial expression? A grimace or smile? The finger is a known ADVrider salute. Maybe he knew you? Were you close to home? Maybe he thought it would be clever to give finger where you live, in your bumhole.
 
King Township is a pretty intersection.

Failing to mention that there is a stop sign is a pretty significant detail that has been left out.
 
Princess's Man said:
Yeah, sorry. There is actually a stop sign at B, but didn't want to put another factor into the equation.

I've always proceeded like A had the right of way. But, I've had a few occasions (like yesterday) where B tries to make his turn first while I'm making mine. B tried to cut me off but couldn't and gave me the finger like I was in the wrong. Some ppl! But, CafeRay has a point: if A's a bike, then better let the car have the right of way.

And here's a link to the intersection(it's pretty common, obviously, but an actual picture might help).
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A has the right of way. Final answer
 
Princess's Man said:
Yeah, sorry. There is actually a stop sign at B, but didn't want to put another factor into the equation.
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Add another factor? That is the main factor.
Who has the right of way, someone entering a roadway with a stop sign or someone on the road with no stop sign?

If you have to ask this question I highly recommend giving your license back to the MTO.
 
Princess's Man said:
Yeah, sorry. There is actually a stop sign at B, but didn't want to put another factor into the equation.

I've always proceeded like A had the right of way. But, I've had a few occasions (like yesterday) where B tries to make his turn first while I'm making mine. B tried to cut me off but couldn't and gave me the finger like I was in the wrong. Some ppl! But, CafeRay has a point: if A's a bike, then better let the car have the right of way.

And here's a link to the intersection(it's pretty common, obviously, but an actual picture might help).
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A had no stop sign, thus right of way, there's not even a reasonable debate. Detailing your threads will help in the future.
 
Car A has the right of way, weather there is a stop sign in front of B or not, as B is entering another direction (the lane B is in, not the car)

if A would continue straight, A would have the right of way as B can not continue straight (in this intersection)
 
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