Toronto And Canada Suck For Motorcycle Community

Pegassus

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Every month I see a post here about a GTA store or bike shop closing, I've seen so many motorcycle shops close that my fingers and toes are not enough to count them all, it first started with McBride's in Dundas St. W and Old Weston Rd about 20 years ago, then with Kahuna Powesports on Steeles ave W and Weston Rd about 10 years ago. Every year there's literally less bike shops to go to, pretty soon there won't be any left, where are we suppose to fix or service our bikes without waiting a month and then another month to get it fixed?

I travelled back to the home country of my parents this year and the motorcycle community over there makes the GTA bike community look like a lizard standing next to Godzilla. It's HUGE. How many motorcycles in Toronto? 20,000? 50,000? Try 1 million motorcycles in a country that only has 1 million more people than the GTA, and is as big as New Jersey. Every single block in any city has a motorcycle shop. and I'm not talking about 2 old guys like it was the case with Rosey Toes, I'm talking about 6 to 8 mechanics working simultaneously in each bike shop. Over there in the home country there's also no such thing as a nerdy stuck-up mechanic that says he won't touch a bike because it's too oily or dirty, over there they love to get dirty with motorcycles. Every single shop overt there does motorcycle over-hauls, they disassemble your engine and put it back together the same day. There's always a parts store within 2 km in the city they send out an 11-year-old boy in a scooter to go fetch it for them, LOL.

How are prices? Well, let me tell you, I have a Yara Serpento 2000 and it wouldn't start after not riding it or starting it in 3 years. They dumped the fuel, they pumped out the brake oil and put fresh oil, they swapped out the oil reservoir because it was clogged, they took out the carburetor, disassembled it and cleaned it, they greased the chain, they took off the gas tank and emptied it and cleaned it, they changed a turn signal that was stuck, and they swapped the headlight bulb because it was burnt, they put air on both tires and adjusted the chain. When I asked how much $$$ for all this (labor work) they told me $11 U.S. dollars, or $15 canadian. My friends gave me sh1t and told me that the other shop in the same block would have charged me cheaper, maybe $8 dollars.

There's sooo much infrastructure and industry behind the motorcycle community that it's nuts. Even corner stores sell motorcycle paraphrenilia, good luck in Toronto with that. The only downside is that I went to Yamaha and Kawasaki dealerships and they don't sell the R6 or R1 or the Z-900 but I was told they could get them, you have to order them and they'll come by ship in 2 months. No problem, I can live and wait 2 months. I also found out that there's local machine shops that literally build motorcycle parts for you. There's speed limits but the signs are there just for birds to stand on them and poop, cops do NOT enforce speed limits, they are usually just chilling under tree shades, probably sleeping. The curious thing is that you don't see anybody going over 110 km/h in rural highways. I love the atmosphere there, the motorcycle atmosphere. It's huge and fun.

I quickly learnt that NOBODY in another motorcycle salutes you, and no wonder why, half the vehicles are motorcycles and 2 or 3 pass you every 3 seconds. When I was there I saw various American and Canadian tour bikers with their KLR's and big BMW bikes, saw a guy with British Columbia plates in a motorcycle at a gas station, we chatted for a bit. He shipped his bike to Panama and was riding it all the way to Vancouver, and he wasn't old, maybe about 37 years old. The motorcycle thing here in Canada is a niche market, or it will become soon, like owning a yacht, that is sad.
 
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New riders, old riders and everything in between. All backgrounds and cultures brought together by their love of motorcycles. Of course we could always see more.
 
Every month I see a post here about a GTA store or bike shop closing, I've seen so many motorcycle shops close that my fingers and toes are not enough to count them all, it first started with McBride's in Dundas St. W and Old Weston Rd about 20 years ago, then with Kahuna Powesports on Steeles ave W and Weston Rd about 10 years ago. Every year there's literally less bike shops to go to, pretty soon there won't be any left, where are we suppose to fix or service our bikes without waiting a month and then another month to get it fixed?

I travelled back to the home country of my parents this year and the motorcycle community over there makes the GTA bike community look like a lizard standing next to Godzilla. It's HUGE. How many motorcycles in Toronto? 20,000? 50,000? Try 1 million motorcycles in a country that only has 1 million more people than the GTA, and is as big as New Jersey. Every single block in any city has a motorcycle shop. and I'm not talking about 2 old guys like it was the case with Rosey Toes, I'm talking about 6 to 8 mechanics working simultaneously in each bike shop. Over there in the home country there's also no such thing as a nerdy stuck-up mechanic that says he won't touch a bike because it's too oily or dirty, over there they love to get dirty with motorcycles. Every single shop overt there does motorcycle over-hauls, they disassemble your engine and put it back together the same day. There's always a parts store within 2 km in the city they send out an 11-year-old boy in a scooter to go fetch it for them, LOL.

How are prices? Well, let me tell you, I have a Yara Serpento 2000 and it wouldn't start after not riding it or starting it in 3 years. They dumped the fuel, they pumped out the brake oil and put fresh oil, they swapped out the oil reservoir because it was clogged, they took out the carburetor, disassembled it and cleaned it, they greased the chain, they took off the gas tank and emptied it and cleaned it, they changed a turn signal that was stuck, and they swapped the headlight bulb because it was burnt, they put air on both tires and adjusted the chain. When I asked how much $$$ for all this (labor work) they told me $11 U.S. dollars, or $15 canadian. My friends gave me sh1t and told me that the other shop in the same block would have charged me cheaper, maybe $8 dollars.

There's sooo much infrastructure and industry behind the motorcycle community that it's nuts. Even corner stores sell motorcycle paraphrenilia, good luck in Toronto with that. The only downside is that I went to Yamaha and Kawasaki dealerships and they don't sell the R6 or R1 or the Z-900 but I was told they could get them, you have to order them and they'll come by ship in 2 months. No problem, I can live and wait 2 months. I also found out that there's local machine shops that literally build motorcycle parts for you. There's speed limits but the signs are there just for birds to stand on them and poop, cops do NOT enforce speed limits, they are usually just chilling under tree shades, probably sleeping. The curious thing is that you don't see anybody going over 110 km/h in rural highways. I love the atmosphere there, the motorcycle atmosphere. It's huge and fun.

I quickly learnt that NOBODY in another motorcycle salutes you, and no wonder why, half the vehicles are motorcycles and 2 or 3 pass you every 3 seconds. When I was there I saw various American and Canadian tour bikers with their KLR's and big BMW bikes, saw a guy with British Columbia plates in a motorcycle at a gas station, we chatted for a bit. He shipped his bike to Panama and was riding it all the way to Vancouver, and he wasn't old, maybe about 37 years old. The motorcycle thing here in Canada is a niche market, or it will become soon, like owning a yacht, that is sad.
Where is this heaven?

I'm guessing a poor nation. Prosperity has turned to greed here.

A person might want to run a business here with the above ethics but shop rent isn't cheap. Mechanics need decent incomes to pay for home rents and food on the table. It grows from there.
 
Now ask the folks back in the old country what their commercial rent, commercial property tax, and commercial insurance is like. Ask how many bi-laws they have to comply and how many tens of thousands they needed to spend to make their place compliant. Don't forget to ask them how many hundreds of thousands go towards payroll...
 
What's the purpose of this post?

Sounds like you're describing a third world country where people are poor, make peanuts per hour and ride small cc motorcycles because that is all they can afford. Bikes are old or mechanically simple because they can be fixed by the side of the road.

What's the relevance to Ontario or Canada? None that I can see.
 
Where`s the home country of your parents? Sounds like somewhere poor and year round warm. Like nobbie48 mentioned, motorcycling in Canada, is mostly an older guys with money hobby. Weather dictates a lot of it, this ain`t SoCal. And if you`re old enough we remember shops and dealers in the GTA failing long before McBrides.
 
Where`s the home country of your parents? Sounds like somewhere poor and year round warm. Like nobbie48 mentioned, motorcycling in Canada, is mostly an older guys with money hobby. Weather dictates a lot of it, this ain`t SoCal. And if you`re old enough we remember shops and dealers in the GTA failing long before McBrides.
I believe @Pegassus spends time in El Salvador.
 
You appear to be comparing motorcycling between a country where riding is a necessity, compared to a hobby like it is here.

Our season is short. Our bylaws are tough. And our motorcycles are not 125-300cc outside of beginners.

Need to provide some actual comparison, or at the very least tell us where this motorcycling utopia is.

Is it El Salvador like @Soulcatcher668 mentioned? Because if it is…not exactly a fair comparison of riding cultures.
 
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