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These are rarely if ever fenced in, but if you build a pool........
I've only seen them fenced. It's nothing more than risk management.

Someone drowns and the lawsuits start flying toward the Municipality.

All the Municipality has to do is say 'Hey. We did everything a reasonable person would do to protect this body of water. We fenced it, we put up signs, we put up warnings, and this fool STILL decided to jump the fence, and illegally trespass onto OUR private / fenced / secured property and drowned.'

If the measures undertaken are 'reasonable', then the Municipality / owner is protected (within reason).
 
I am shocked anyone would take this article seriously in any way shape or form. It's utter rubbish from the first paragraphs...

'Bolsheviks', 'The Union of Soviet Toronto Republics', 'politbiuro', and the author loses all creditability.

The water collections systems in Toronto, and everywhere, are out of date, falling apart, and causing many issues. Toronto itself has been undergoing a complete program of their basement flooding remediation. They're currently building new tunnels to collect additional water and being able to handle the capacity.

The problem isn't the lack of maintenance (which it is), it's the fact that residents, businesses, and everyone is paving over their properties in order to gain more driveway / patio / recreational space / larger square footage houses / etc.

Previously, the soil would naturally soak up the rainwater to the point of saturation, and whatever was left over would make it's way over to the sewer system...not any more. Now these impermeable structures don't allow for this, and the water has to go somewhere. There's less green space to absorb the water, so there is more water making it into the system.

Said water bring with it: grime, garbage, oil, and a host of other contaminants into our aging infrastructure causing further damage and as others mentioned, overflowing the system and discharging unsanitary conditions into the lake and our waterways.

Mississauga has a 'levy' / 'tax' or call it what you will that gets tacked onto the water bill because the system can no longer sustain itself.

The people of Toronto will not accept higher property taxes to pay for these much needed repairs, so the politicians need to add various different streams of income to bring it in, or cut elsewhere to make up the shortfall.

Imagine (for fun / exercise) a 3000sqft yard with a 1000sqft home...that leaves 2000sqft of green space.

Add a 2500sqft home onto the yard, with a 500sqft driveway, and you have no green space left (I've seen it) on a single yard.

Where is the water going? It's sure as hell not being soaked up into the lawn...there isn't one! So it ALL goes into the water system.

Who pays for that? It should be the person that has caused this, and it was allowed to be done by Toronto that approved said permits.

When new major buildings / infrastructure is being built...I was shocked to learn how much of an issue the water runoff is. There's massive holding / drainage ponds that need to be build to make up for that shortfall. Now what would take hours to soak into the ground can take days because it's all collected in a central location to allow it. Drive around some areas and you'll see fenced off ponds that have no business being there...those are collection ponds to take all the rain / surface water from developments and allow it to drain and get soaked up into the water, or evaporated into the atmosphere.

It's a huge problem, and something needs to be done as we're literally 'paving paradise and putting up a parking lot'.

IMO this is very much needed, and long overdue. Just a matter of how they charge for it fairly.
Yes they have know about this problem for years. But I'm sure TO had a program in place to address the sewer system years ago. I remember they raised water prices in To and other municipalities by quite a bit, and did the sneaky thing of combing it with the utility bill so it's not as noticeable. So they did all this to take care of this problem. I did see a lot of work around the city digging up trench to put in expanded water pipes. That didn't fix it, or is this just a new spin to get more of our money?
 
@sburns I agree with you, there's always something new that's needed. My main issue is with the idiotic article and the note and tone that's taken against City Council.

I have no skin in that game as I don't live in Toronto, but Chow has a hard choice...let things continue to crumble...or start fixing things. Fixing costs money.

Is gov't bloated? 100%. Is it efficient? 100% no. Can it be better? Yes. Will it be better? Remind me in X years.

Fact is programs like this; Basement Flooding Protection Program

Cost a LOT of money, and that money needs to come from somewhere. When you don't increase property taxes for years and years because it's political suicide...and the population grows...and homes grown...and immigration grows and more and more people come in...the infrastructure set up for X is quickly overrun.

Another project comes to mind: Cleaning up our waterways – Coxwell Bypass Tunnel and the Don River and Central Waterfront project

Which is near and dear to me as many friends work there, and I love tunneling.

Coxwell bypass along with Ashbridges Bay WWTP upgrades are many many years overdue, and they're all happening at once.

EDIT: Oh yes...and Inner Harbour is currently in design...


So for anyone working in infrastructure...Toronto is the place to be for the next decade or more.
 
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I was going to say caymans but a) most ponds are full of goldfish and not many caymans around, b) afaik, they can't survive the winter and c) you can just drop your cayman over/under the fence and it will walk to the water. Not many people are brave/dumb enough to throw their goldfish and hope it lands in the water.
 
The current city council has a tough row to hoe. Decades of 'do nothingness' are coming home to roost. Housing, infrastructure, roads, schools, libraries - all need attention and the city can't do it without help. Be that via municipal taxation or provincial and federal assistance. The GTA contributes over 20% of the gross national product and has received bupkus in return. I wasn't a huge fan of Olivia Chow before the election, but at least she and council are trying to do SOMETHING, unlike Kinsella and other noisemakers. Things didn't fall apart overnight and they won't get fixed overnight either but you gotta start somewhere.
It would help if they showed some common sense like not fudging bicycle studies, renaming streets and jumping like scared cats at every woke comment.
 
It would help if they showed some common sense like not fudging bicycle studies, renaming streets and jumping like scared cats at every woke comment.
A lot of that was started during the previous regime - like the 'no cars in High Park' fiasco they seem to have died a timely death.
 

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