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Some real head shakers online recently.

News: Study indicates after fluoride removed from Calgary drinking water system a few years ago, cavities in kids suddenly and dramaticallly increase.
Online reaction: No correlation, kids just eating more sugar, the study is BS. OMG FLUORIDE IS POISON. Endless links to quack sites like natural news, etc. Complete and total disregard for the study, soccer moms and conspiracy theorists everywhere with 20 minutes of Google University under their belts declare it a total coincidence.

News: FBI basically orders Apple to hack their own users and install a backdoor into everyone's phones. They won't abuse it ever, they promise.
Online reaction: Apple sucks. Apple should do it, the government can be trusted. Apple should do it, it'll just be this once, it'll never be abused. Nobody would ever figure out how to hack such a back door, your info will still be safe. Encryption is for people with things to hide, not concerned about security. Bonus points - the "Apple sucks, Android rulez!" crowd suddenly shut up when Google comes out in Apples defence this evening, all suddenly looking for new "Apple sux" argument angle, facts be damned.

News: Zika virus. Lots of facts.
Online reaction: OMG it's all those GMO mosquitos they released. MONSANTO! Population control. It's just an excuse for "big pharma" to introduce another vaccine (which is poison, of course) and make more money.

News: US supreme court judge dies.
Online reaction: Obama did it, he's kenyan ya know. It was the illuminati. The FBI used a "heart attack gun". (Dead serious, google it...) The potential next president of the USA is even not above the conspiracy theories.

Sometimes, I think I liked it better in the pre-internet days when every crackpot didn't have an online audience, a huge majority of the population didn't automatically believe everything they read online, science and evidence meant something, and critical thinking was a skill the majority actually had, and utilized.

Now...


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I kinda like this one:
PrivatePilot said:
Saywhat? Pretty broad swaths your paintbrush is painting, there....


Go read Deuteronomy (Holy Bible, in case you aren't aware the reference) 21:18-21 and chew on that for a bit. Or remember, the shirt you're wearing is probably a sin according to Leviticus 19:19.


Your off the wall suggestion that all religious people of your chosen scorn are crazies is about as valid as taking the above statements from Christianity (to list but two of the many crazy things in their book) and suggesting that all Christians are equally as crazy. Some are, but that's another story - most are most certainly not.


Religion as a whole is messed up, but that doesn't mean that every person who chooses to follow their chosen flavor is automatically a psycho just because of something in their magic book. Much the same as most Christians choose not to take slaves (Leviticus 25:44-46), gladly eat shellfish and bacon, most of the "abrahamic religion" do not believe or partake in the crazy **** in their book either.
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Baggsy said:
I kinda like this one:
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I'll have to go find that post and crush that pile of piss poor information with some wisdom.

This is why it says don't swallow the toothpaste, he didn't read the warnings and ate it as a kid.
Everything mentioned is actually true. Do us a favor, build a spaceship and try to break through the sky.
 
I thought the US Govt. had access to all devices unless this is some kinda ploy to make fake news that they do NOT have access so the bad guys will think they have security.

Court ordered Apple to unlock the phone for the FBI to track the shooter's contacts and path.
Apple refusing court order.
Wait for it...Apple supports ISIS...lol

btw give the phone to CSI Cyber, they will crack it in 1 minute:lmao:
 
Baggsy said:
I kinda like this one:
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In case you missed it, I was making fun of the content I posted, not supporting it or preaching. Furthest thing from it. I grew up in a Christian family, but then I became a critical thinker at around age 14...and moved on long, long ago.

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I thought the US Govt. had access to all devices unless this is some kinda ploy to make fake news that they do NOT have access so the bad guys will think they have security
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A conspiracy theorists wet dream.
 
Considering the technology we know about where they record every fax, email, telephone call etc... I would think cracking the security code on a phone is a walk in the park for them.

The Govt. seems to have a legit request here imo.
If this guy killed kids and admitted to it but the Govt. wanted access to his phone for photos or more evidence to help them find other victims...would Apple still say no.
Would customers accept that?

Why doesn't Apple simply unlock the phone for the FBI in private and hand over the phone?
 
PrivatePilot said:
In case you missed it, I was making fun of the content I posted, not supporting it or preaching. Furthest thing from it. I grew up in a Christian family, but then I became a critical thinker at around age 14...and moved on long, long ago.



A conspiracy theorists wet dream.
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You really should understand something, before you can make fun of it. That's why I posted it in this thread. You feel a certain way, and that's fine. But you then posted your feeling as fact, which isn't so fine. Best to keep moving then.
 
PrivatePilot said:
Sometimes, I think I liked it better in the pre-internet days when every crackpot didn't have an online audience, a huge majority of the population didn't automatically believe everything they read online, science and evidence meant something, and critical thinking was a skill the majority actually had, and utilized.

Now...
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Before computers, the internet and spell check people had to write with their own hands. Unlike the internet, you could tell which ones were writing with crayons.
 
-D- said:
Considering the technology we know about where they record every fax, email, telephone call etc... I would think cracking the security code on a phone is a walk in the park for them.

The Govt. seems to have a legit request here imo.
If this guy killed kids and admitted to it but the Govt. wanted access to his phone for photos or more evidence to help them find other victims...would Apple still say no.
Would customers accept that?

Why doesn't Apple simply unlock the phone for the FBI in private and hand over the phone?
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We're talking about assistance in breaking into the phone, Apple does not have the ability to unlock it. And it's far better to have this decided via legal precedent & have this stuff happen out in the open, and it would be better if there was specific legislation for this assistance as opposed to the All Writs Act. This is 0% about Apple having any interest in protecting the San Bernardino shooter as a customer, and more about forcing legislation to catch up with technology (so we don't have commercial entities determining which requests are legit and which aren't)
 
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nobbie48 said:
Before computers, the internet and spell check people had to write with their own hands. Unlike the internet, you could tell which ones were writing with crayons.
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That was beautiful. *wipes tear from eye* I will be stealing that.

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Why doesn't Apple simply unlock the phone for the FBI in private and hand over the phone?
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The phones were wiped (bricked) by the shooters prior to the attack. Type your password into your iPhone wrong ten times and see what happens to it. The government has little interest in those particular phones other than to verify some names that are already on their watch list. They want Apple to come up with the technology to unbrick those phones (because TERRORISM!) and hand them over so their guys in white lab coats can take them and reverse engineer the technology so they can unbrick anyone's iPhone going forward. Once (if) they succeed in forcing Apple to do that, they'll go after everyone else. They can already record your calls and texts in real time (if they're close enough) with their Stinrgay units. This is the next step.

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-D- said:
The Govt. seems to have a legit request here imo.
If this guy killed kids and admitted to it but the Govt. wanted access to his phone for photos or more evidence to help them find other victims...would Apple still say no.
Would customers accept that?

Why doesn't Apple simply unlock the phone for the FBI in private and hand over the phone?
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Because slippery slope.

Once that cat is out of the bag every slimy lawyer out there will eventually, over the coming years, lower the bar for what is justified is "required". So, 5 or 10 years from now the courts are demanding your phone unlocked and your personal details added to public court records over every such petty things that we'd laugh them as ridiculous today.

Not to mention that any backdoor would rapidly be exploited by every hacker on the internet. Think about all the sensitive info you have on your phone - are you OK with just tossing the doors open for anyone and everyone? If you lost your phone in a bar and it was unlocked and wide open would you be OK with it? That's more or less what could happen when backdoors to override protections and encryption (the main issue here) are installed as the FBI is basically requesting.
 
-D- said:
Why doesn't Apple simply unlock the phone for the FBI in private and hand over the phone?
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Cause it isn't locked its encrypted and they done know the password to get in and the truth is apple does not know how to break the encryption nor does not wasnt to find a backdoor method of breaking that encryption because thats what encryption is designed to do to keep your data private. It also very much so might not be currently feasible to break technically speaking.
 
LiNK666 said:
I approve of this. After reading GTAM, I definitely feel the need for population control and sterilization.
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Fair enough, although the ones that survive are going to create a whole new market for tiny sized helmet manufacturers in about 16 years.

Sorry, probably a bad joke. One express ticket to hell please.
 
FullMotoJacket said:
The phones were wiped (bricked) by the shooters prior to the attack. Type your password into your iPhone wrong ten times and see what happens to it. The government has little interest in those particular phones other than to verify some names that are already on their watch list. They want Apple to come up with the technology to unbrick those phones (because TERRORISM!) and hand them over so their guys in white lab coats can take them and reverse engineer the technology so they can unbrick anyone's iPhone going forward. Once (if) they succeed in forcing Apple to do that, they'll go after everyone else. They can already record your calls and texts in real time (if they're close enough) with their Stinrgay units. This is the next step.

Stingray
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Ok thx, I better understand the slippery slope.

hmmm, next idea...in the interest of national security, everyone goes back to using land lines and fax machines....ban the internet and cellphones:D
 
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