Pickup Trucks

Maybe we just need to accept that they're all crap... Lol..
Indeed. I was getting gas recently and the guy across from me filling up his new 25 Sierra AT4 said “Good job choosing the Ford. This piece of **** blew the bottom out of the engine in month 3. Can’t wait to get rid of the piece of ****”.
Some people say they’ll never buy another Ram, others Ford, etc. A bad reliability experience with one product shouldn’t keep you from buying from the same brand but if customer service to fix the issue is crap it should.
Honestly just accept that if it’s human it’s going to make mistakes and if it’s a machine it’s going to break down. Negotiate a good warranty when purchasing.
 
Maybe we just need to accept that they're all crap... Lol.
This is my thinking and why I'm considering a lease over owning.
Drive it while under warranty and return it when the warranty runs out.
For us vehicles are just to go to work and back and the occasional errands.
 
My Toyota dealer has a small row of Tundras waiting on engines . Eight of them , all thirty to sixty kms and kaboom. Allegedly the engine manufacturer was missing a step rinsing out machining filings during assembly and they eat themselves. Your now seeing ads for used trucks saying “ engine swap completed” . Yikes , but they are fixing them .


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My Toyota dealer has a small row of Tundras waiting on engines . Eight of them , all thirty to sixty kms and kaboom. Allegedly the engine manufacturer was missing a step rinsing out machining filings during assembly and they eat themselves. Your now seeing ads for used trucks saying “ engine swap completed” . Yikes , but they are fixing them .


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I drove them all when I ordered my truck. The Sierra was my second choice and what I really didn't like about it was not the fact that their was quite a few lifter failures (I joined a few truck forums and it wasn't just an internet rumour of the issue) but that the lifters were in such short supply that they would wait until the lifters went bad, replace the lifters only on the bad side, then send the truck back out. Many owners lost their truck for weeks/months waiting for the lifters to be fixed only to have to lose it again months later when the other side went bad.
 
Was running an errand yesterday and as I was driving I passed a used car lot with a very nice Ford ranger parked out front. Older one 2009-2011 ish no rust very clean it peaked my interest so when I got home I hoped on their website. I'm obviously out of touch, 16k. My interest diminished, this place seems to specialize in older rangers and that seems to be the average listed price. Would have suited my nerds perfectly.
 
I was laughing yesterday. Hydro One was replacing smart meters in my neighbourhood. Honeywell showed up with two shiny new ford rangers and two employees. They left the trucks running the entire time. Obviously we are paying Hydro One too much as they are paying Honeywell too much.
 
Rangers: Same fuel economy as F150, but half the usable space in both the cab and the box.
Also almost $20k cheaper for an equivalently equipped XLT mid-tier model (~$50k vs $70k despite the 150 getting a much fatter discount), plus easier to manage in urban environments. Considering I'd say north of 60% of F-150 drivers never haul anything heavier than their groceries and are mostly hauling air, having that extra space isn't always needed.

Haven't owned a Ranger, but the Taco I had was a lot easier to park in squeezy downtown and underground lots than the 150 I had later. It was only about 6" narrower, but that made the difference between getting out comfortably and having to thread the needle. Even worse was when some douchecanoe would park their passenger side right against the driver door, and you had to do the console crawl to get in.
 
Was running an errand yesterday and as I was driving I passed a used car lot with a very nice Ford ranger parked out front. Older one 2009-2011 ish no rust very clean it peaked my interest so when I got home I hoped on their website. I'm obviously out of touch, 16k. My interest diminished, this place seems to specialize in older rangers and that seems to be the average listed price. Would have suited my nerds perfectly.
$16k... crazy.

I bought a 5 spd 4l, 2wd ranger, new in 2011. It was 18k otd...

Traded it in 2021 with 120,000km on it (I work local), for $4.5g. No rust. Needed tires. Abs sensor was going wonky.

Prices on new trucks is nuts.

My 2021 chev silverado was $58k otd. No options. Covid pricing. Now its likely $70k...

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$16k... crazy.

I bought a 5 spd 4l, 2wd ranger, new in 2011. It was 18k otd...

Traded it in 2021 with 120,000km on it (I work local), for $4.5g. No rust. Needed tires. Abs sensor was going wonky.

Prices on new trucks is nuts.

My 2021 chev silverado was $58k otd. No options. Covid pricing. Now its likely $70k...
That gen of Ranger has become a bit of a cult classic, as it was the last of the simple, basic, ladder frame, actually small trucks. With some TLC they're very durable, and appeal to a type that wants a stripped down option. This means clean ones can command a hefty price.

As for pricing, it has definitely gone crazy, but considering Ford is offering a >$9k employee pricing discount and a $2000 delivery discount (per my recent visit to your Build & Price tool), I have to wonder if things are coming back to earth. Then again, the mid-tier XLT F-150 with tow package I priced still came to over $70,000 AFTER the >$11k in discounts, so maybe not...
 
Also almost $20k cheaper for an equivalently equipped XLT mid-tier model (~$50k vs $70k despite the 150 getting a much fatter discount), plus easier to manage in urban environments. Considering I'd say north of 60% of F-150 drivers never haul anything heavier than their groceries and are mostly hauling air, having that extra space isn't always needed.

Haven't owned a Ranger, but the Taco I had was a lot easier to park in squeezy downtown and underground lots than the 150 I had later. It was only about 6" narrower, but that made the difference between getting out comfortably and having to thread the needle. Even worse was when some douchecanoe would park their passenger side right against the driver door, and you had to do the console crawl to get in.

For the 1-2 times a year I might need a pick up truck I'm happy U Haul have the $19.99 option available.

I like trucks, can't justify one.

Edit: whoever opened the U Haul franchise in our city is a business genius. It's right opposite the Costco.
 
This is my thinking and why I'm considering a lease over owning.
Drive it while under warranty and return it when the warranty runs out.

That was my thinking, except I still bought over leased and got the 7 year warranty with our 2020 RAM 1500 (hemi). Warranty will expire Feb 2027, so I'm gonna be shopping for a new truck next year too. Knock on wood, I haven't had ANY issues that would require warranty repair - this truck has been rock solid.
 
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