The cell-phone distracted-driving issue could easily be addressed through technology: Legislation prohibiting any cell-phone or other similar communication device from transmitting or receiving if it is moving faster than (let's say) 20 km/h by the operator of a vehicle. To tech companies and auto industry collectively - for how to detect if it is being operated by a passenger or driver - "You figure it out, and until such time as you do, disable sending and receiving completely if moving above that speed". They will.
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New Stunting Penalties + E-Bike regulations incoming(?)
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How a device is going to detect if an owner is operator of a vehicle and not a passenger? There's no way.
iPhones do this.
It did happen, and I was not alone. Just a couple weeks ago in fact. Dick.
Key fobs can detect if they are inside or outside of the vehicle within inches. They can determine for the most part if you’re a driver or passenger
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Lol. There’s a Faraday‘s cage between “inside” and “outside”.
No there's not. Not a good one anyway. You can get cell phone wifi, bluetooth, radio and pretty much any other signal inside the cabin.
Yeah, but it’s enough to deferential a signal from outside anteanas and inside antennas. Keyfob doesn’t measure how far it’s outside of the cabin it’s located.
So are you suggesting we don’t have sufficient technology to determine if someone is in the driver’s seat or a passenger seat?
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Inside vs outside is a lot simpler than which seat you are sitting in (especially if you are trying to differentiate between driver and a passenger right behind them). As most cars have occupancy sensors for airbag control, theoretically the car could send a signal to the phone that it was in a sole-occupant vehicle. Lots of companies need to work together and easy to beat though.
As far as the iphone doing it, it is a crap implementation for those that want to get around it. It uses something like speed to silence the phone but to unlock it, you just click "I'm not driving" and it gives you full access. It is designed to help those that are conscientious and want a little help to stay focused. For the most part, those aren't the people that are texting and driving now.
They could use very time limited click points to ensure your full focus is on the phone and re-lock if you don't click in time. That forces whoever is using the phone to dedicate their brain to the phone (so if they are a driver, they will either be unable to click in time or crash).
They can actually. Siemens VDO modules are dual purpose key fob and Tire Pressure monitoring.
Using dB readings on signal strength it can determine front and rear sensors, if the antenna is offset in the dash they can detect left and right. Otherwise they use a turn to match wheel speed sensors to the sensors in the wheels to find left or right.
So they can detect range, it's just math. Not sure if any company restricts usable Key fob range based on that though.
Good concept and obviously can work for relative position with multiple identical transmitters. Throw vastly different transmitters (different phones, cases, etc) and it gets harder. You can try with multiple antennas to triangulate devices but some drivers use their phone in the passenger seat. It is really hard to design a system that works well in the face of people actively trying to defeat it.
Maybe the simplest solution is eye-tracking (or similar). If your eyes are away from the windshield too often, something happens to correct your behaviour. The upside is that cleans up electronic devices, searching for change, paying attention to kids, driving while tired, etc and likely impaired driving all at the same time with a single piece of technology.
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I've mentioned this before. For an Ebike the operator has an operator's card not unlike a boat operator's card. It is a written test only and could be done on-line or where the bike is purchased. When I got my boater's card it was about $25 and good for life. The questions deal mostly with basic laws. The operator then can't claim "I didn't know".
The licence for the bike is like a trailer. One payment and good for life. Now there is a chance of getting compensation from a bike that side swiped your car.
If we could get the addresses of every vehicle owner from the MOT (We can't) and send them a letter pointing out that if their car is damaged by a hit and run E bike, since there is no licence for the other vehicle the damage might be classed as single vehicle. The owner takes the hit.
I don't know what it takes to get people to nip things in the bud.
If you get hit by a cyclist, horse drawn wagon or any other legal road vehicle it's not considered a single vehicle collision.
Why would an E-Bike be any different?
It depends if they stick around. In the absence of a positive ID of other vehicle (driver or plate number) insurance thinks you are making up the incident and dings you. Camera footage may change that.
You don't have to go to Lake Erie. If you were taking Airport Road Southbound it's 80 KPH to past Steeles and at some point south of the RR overpass it becomes 50 KPH. I never saw a sign that stressed the change. Also with all the semi traffic in the area you could be in a sandwich and not see them.
All you would have to do is be 10 over coming over the bridge and your life will change.
Re the Euro thing, life isn't a buffet where we only choose the things we like. We need better training. Do we want mandatory yearly safeties?
A Swiss friend told me he gets yearly inspections on his house.
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You dont need to know their addresses. Canada Post makes this easy. You pick car heavy postal codes (ie suburbs) and CP will happily put a letter in every box. Sure a few people will get it that dont own cars but the vast majority will have multiple cars. It's probably cheaper than mailing to invidividual owners as many houses would get two or more letters if sent to registered owners.
So were the cops charged with tampering with the paperwork?
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