New Riders...Start with a smaller bike!

Forum Sponsor
By being good at what they do?

Sure start on a SS and not die, but is that really the standard we are judging riders on now? Not dying? Is that the same as being skilled? On and off the track? In the corners?
 
ok, what is the standard "we" are judging riders by then? in your expert opinion, what does it take to be a "good rider"?
 
I dont know, what is your expert opinion? Start on a SS and be alive at the end of the day = success?
 
you are avoiding the question, how do you tell the difference between a good and a bad rider??

I've given my opinion and its based on my experience, not on what I read on forums, watched on YouTube or heard at Timmies, be it right or wrong, its what I lived thru and its what worked for me
 
You are avoiding the question too

Just because it 'worked' for you doesnt mean ****.

If you are so confident in your belief, let my little cousin who just wrote his M1 take your superduke out for a spin(we're in brampton)

I'm sure he'll be fine, it'll work for him too
 
a good street rider is a safe one that makes it home a live and is comfortable on his machine in any situation on the road.

wtf does your cousin have to do with my superduke or this argument?? i'll let him take my superduke for a spin if he lets me take his wife/gf for a spin.......wtf are you even talking about???

what bike did you start on? you talk like you are an expert telling people what bikes they should or shouldn't be starting on, you think that hitting the twisties fast makes you a good rider? lets go for a ride together and see how much of an expert you are, im still learning things after 12 years so maybe you can show me a thing or 2
 
Self deprecation wont help your premise.


Starting on a SS/fast bike is still a bad idea, always was and always will be.
 
Self deprecation?? you think because i'm still learning new skills on a motorcycle after 12 years it somehow belittles me? are you all right in the head?

i'm assuming since you are arguing your side so strongly that you started on a smaller bike, and are now reaping the benefits of that.......i'd like to see that for myself, lets go for a ride together, i'm busy this weekend but am free next weekend

you still haven't answered my question, what is the standard for a good rider?
 
lol nothing else to say?, bye Felicia
 
Nobody should tell anyone what bike they should start on. If you want to start on a 1k and can afford it, go for it. Know the risks involved and good luck to you. If you wreck, you wreck, if you learn, you learn, who cares, I'm not the one paying.

You get into motorcycling because you've been dreaming of that one bike, why restrict yourself for many years on something small and different? Be happy with whats sitting in your garage, don't dread riding it. Some people don't like 250-300's styling, sound, and power so I understand on beginners starting on something larger.

Of course I also recommend starting out on a smaller bike, but I'm not here bashing 1st time riders on 600's or acting like starting on anything bigger than 300cc is the worst idea in the world

AS long as the person riding the bike is having fun, thats all that matters regardless of skill level or riding capabilities
 
Last edited:
mbroyda said:
a good street rider is a safe one that makes it home a live and is comfortable on his machine in any situation on the road.

wtf does your cousin have to do with my superduke or this argument?? i'll let him take my superduke for a spin if he lets me take his wife/gf for a spin.......wtf are you even talking about???

what bike did you start on? you talk like you are an expert telling people what bikes they should or shouldn't be starting on, you think that hitting the twisties fast makes you a good rider? lets go for a ride together and see how much of an expert you are, im still learning things after 12 years so maybe you can show me a thing or 2
Click to expand...

don't go over any uneven pavement, he might drop his bike again :lmao:
 
How about if we start with a baseline of will your current riding pass the M2X, and how well will you do on it? While, most people don't ride that way day to day, it can still be used as a reference point.
tikebike said:
Nobody should tell anyone what bike they should start on. If you want to start on a 1k and can afford it, go for it. Know the risks involved and good luck to you. If you wreck, you wreck, if you learn, you learn, who cares, I'm not the one paying. You get into motorcycling because you've been dreaming of that one bike, why restrict yourself for many years on something small and different? Be happy with whats sitting in your garage, don't dread riding it. Some people don't like 250-300's styling, sound, and power so I understand on beginners starting on something larger. Of course I also recommend starting out on a smaller bike, but I'm not here bashing 1st time riders on 600's or acting like starting on anything bigger than 300cc is the worst idea in the world AS long as the person riding the bike is having fun, thats all that matters regardless of skill level or riding capabilities
Click to expand...
Public roads. We need to be safe, as well as having fun. So no, it doesn't work simply if the person riding is having fun, others need to have fun, and be safe, as well.
 
Baggsy said:
How about if we start with a baseline of will your current riding pass the M2X, and how well will you do on it? While, most people don't ride that way day to day, it can still be used as a reference point. Public roads. We need to be safe, as well as having fun. So no, it doesn't work simply if the person riding is having fun, others need to have fun, and be safe, as well.
Click to expand...

People can find fun in a fat boy rumbling under their *** at a stop light, especially first timers. I doubt first time riders are ripping through reds, popping wheelies and doing double the speed limit to have fun, oh wait they must be, they started on a 600 right? How else could they have fun on that thing......Of course they will kill themselves on it or lose their license.

Theres many other ways to have fun on a motorcycle other than riding like a jackass on public roads, give me a break
 
I still think graduated licensing is a smart way of doing things. If we had it here it might help with insurance costs after a while too.
 
And to add my two cents, I would have started on a SS, but I'd rather not pay $5k a year in insurance. I opted for the DRZ because I can't stand how ugly the 3" wide tires make 250/300's look, plus whoolies.

Plus this is a dumb argument anyways. Starting out on a 250 means f*ck all how good of a rider you are. Most of every rider's riding is done on straight roads around town or commuting to work, which doesn't help "improve rider skill." It doesn't matter what bike you are on when you're sitting in traffic on the 401. You are trying to justify your purchase and prove to people who don't care that you didn't waste your money on a slow bike which you've wanted to sell since 3 months after you bought it.

I'm newer to the bike scene, but this is the same argument from the car scene. "You'll never be a good driver if you didn't start in a FWD manual car like my 97 Civic. Look at my rims and my loud exhaust and my 8 second 0-60 time." Then they go on to buy a Focus ST or a Mazda 3 Speed, like what a waste of money lol

I guess I'm not the type of person to fight for what other people should or shouldn't spend their money on. I'm just here to annoy bigpoppa haha
 
fuwafuwa said:
I was originally looking for a 650 because everyone I met told me I will outgrow a 250/300 quickly, until I discovered this forum and the threads about starter bikes.

Very happy with the 250 right now and I'm glad I listened to the advise from members on this forum. There were a few instances that I made a mistake and the nature of the 250 made it forgiving thus avoiding a crash/lowside.
Click to expand...

Bring that 250 for some racing with us! There's lots of us on 250s/300s and Shannonville.

....also: http://csbk.ca/index.php/news/news/...bk-nationals-at-canadian-tire-motorsport-park
 
tikebike said:
Nobody should tell anyone what bike they should start on. If you want to start on a 1k and can afford it, go for it. Know the risks involved and good luck to you. If you wreck, you wreck, if you learn, you learn, who cares, I'm not the one paying. .....
Click to expand...

Not exactly true. You pay in the insurance rates that all the other's make against a particular model/rider age range....and in social costs like health care, etc.

I would be in favour of graduated licensing with HP restrictions/limits.
 
This whole argument is funny. If the intention is to produce good riders. Than everyone should start in the dirt.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom