Ontariomystic
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I never had that experience, must be talking to a general sales person not one of their MV sales guys.
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New MV Agusta dealer in Hamilton
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I never had that experience, must be talking to a general sales person not one of their MV sales guys.
Ride Motorcycles in Vaughan carried them for a few years at least. They where good to talk to about MV but they ended up dropping them mid summer of last year. Not sure why.
I couldn't consider one because they are far and away out of my ability to pay. However, their being hosted at Royal is not necessarily a bad thing. RD is probably more trustworthy to keep them protected and clean than purchasing used from a stranger.
I think where RD may have miscalculated is not in the decision to try and sell a motorcycle but which one. If I am going there because they have affordable clothes, it makes sense that the vehicle should also be affordable. So I think they should have tried with Sym Wolf 150s. It's a well done Taiwanese clone of a 1970s Honda from one of the original OEMs for Honda.
Affordable clothes, affordable bike.
Affordable clothes, very expensive bike. Wrong target market.
I don't think RD doesn't offer only affordable lines of apparel ... what they offer others offer as well in some shape and form, meaning affordable and inexpensive. RD also sells Arai and Shoei helmets I believe, not just the less expensive lids.
I hear you what you are saying, I just don't whether this would play any role in anyone's decision making.
I hear you what you are saying, I just don't whether this would play any role in anyone's decision making.
I made an argument awhile ago that where Kahuna is now is not the right area to sell Ducati and that presentation is important and that it is better to be downtown for this.
I was told I was wrong and that people with money don't care about presentation and will travel to Rexdale or whatever in torn clothes to buy a Ducati. (paraphrasing)
I dropped it at that point because I can't afford a Ducati either.
I bring this up because you said you require finery so you sort of prove my point. If you have money that is.
I was told I was wrong and that people with money don't care about presentation and will travel to Rexdale or whatever in torn clothes to buy a Ducati. (paraphrasing)
I dropped it at that point because I can't afford a Ducati either.
I bring this up because you said you require finery so you sort of prove my point. If you have money that is.
My opinion doesn't prove much. But thanks. Certain vehicles demand a certain selling environment. Everybody knows this. Ever been to Budds BMW? You can feel the tension in the air. High rollers like that. Tingles their spidey senses, make them feel at home.
Not a fan of the over the top dealership experience either but rd really doesn't seem to care if they sell any bikes. They don't take trades either which puts them way down my list.
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Guess you've never been inside Sturgess Cycle then. Not exactly a boutique shop, but they get the job done.
Every time I walk into a boutique shop, my skin crawls. My good taste is reflected in my ride, not where I buy it. I prefer dimly lit, greasy shops over a sterile marketing environment with a cappuccino machine. Save me the sizzle, that's for the self-absorbed; gimmie the steak, I'll even cook it myself.
Informed buyers know what they want before they walk into a dealership. Once on target, nothing else matters IMO, as long as the staff aren't idiots that is.
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Read post #3. I hate boutique shops, I also hate shops that cater to the dumbest stuff on two wheels crowd. If I'm spending MV money I need a little confidence in the dealer. I'll probably need them at some point.
Need them for what? Any MV dealer will do a warranty or after warranty work should you not have a confidence in the one you bought the bike from. That's the one thing I really don't care much about who sells me a bike at the right price. If you are about building dealer-client relationship, I see what you mean, but I am pretty sure there's a whole range of buyers who don't.
Ontariomystic
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That is what they do for service. They don't want to have their own service shop. Wouldn't make sense. MV bikes don't sell in high volumes and aren't expected to. The left over 2011 F4's are from the first year they started carrying the MV line. Takes time to get word out and buyers interested so no suprise they didn't sell out.
Hmm, didn't see that post, but it does seem that if comparing RD with Sturgess, there's not much difference in dealer "presentation", neither of which I would personally call "low rent", but I would give "authenticity" marks to Sturgess as opposed to RD which comes across as more of a "store" than a dealership IMO.
If you're equating "high rent" appearances of a dealership with sales and service competency, and as a "badge of distinction" for owners, I can see how you might make that connection. But one can't always tell a book by its cover. EG, In my town, the best Chinese food can be had at greasy, dingy hole in the wall, not the Mandarin.
I would buy an MV from any shop that treated me like I mattered, and offered a good deal and had a shop manual they'd sell me because I'd end up servicing the bike myself in the long run, so it doesn't matter.
Personally, if I had the dosh, I'd scoop up one of their new Turismo Veloce ST bikes, Lusso model, without batting an eye, from any dealer, sterile or greasy, that offered me the better deal, and put up with being called stupid by riders who've never ventured out of their first brands of bikes, and hope I won't need any repair or warranty work done. :razz:
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I would consider Sturgess for an MV, I would not consider Royal D , I'm buying a bike from the place that could have maintenance parts and a tech that could sort a problem should it arise. I'm not buying a 20k toaster at Canadian tire and taking it to a service depot in an industrial park 90km from my house. The Ducati /KTM dealer in Cambridge isn't really in a fancy boutique, but I would buy a Ducati there. I have a Duc and it was bought in a now defunct average dealership. I like the experience of a nice dealership, but for me when ready to purchase I'm buying the complete package, I'm getting a bike from somebody that knows bikes, can service the product and that includes sourcing parts, and is helpful. That's what matters. 2011 inventory sitting in the showroom? that's not taking time to get the word out, that's bad marketing effort and poor product placement.
Neither Sturgess or RD look like low rent stores except when looking a little closer you realize 95% of RD apparel selection caters to the lightning bolt painted on flames power tripping nerve shredding graphics beanie sportin' knuckle dragging dumbest stuff on two wheels hold my beer and watch this wannabe backflipper crowd. Altho I can't recall atm I'd bet they play cr+p music on the value added stereophonic hi fi. You know, to set a mood. That's a personal bias on my part. I guess this is what happens when you buy Frogg Toggs and the zipper breaks
Ontariomystic
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Royal is its own company, not sure who told you otherwise. Motovan is the Canadian distributer for Mv Agusta.
