New HD CEO has a Plan.............

Where is Cadillac, known for 7 liter V-8 and RWD barges. Also known for chubby bankers with one foot in the grave.

What has been their success on changing that and could HD learn anything about evolution? (Not their evo motor)
 
I like the idea of bringing back the oldschool Sportster. Cars, bikes, etc are getting to the point where adding power/performance isn't beneficial as it can't be used on the roads so the alternative to adding performance is adding character. That's what the air-cooled Sportster offers.
 
Sport bikes are way more subtle. The now defunct 600`s would evolve year over year with half a kilo lighter,0.9 more HP etc. Sport bike styling is generally similar...but now we have wings too!!

Plus, most manufacturers have one or two sportbikes in their lineup. As well as one or two cruisers. And maybe a few dirtbikes, standards, ADVs, etc.

Harley has cruisers. And more cruisers. And also... more cruisers...

In a multi-bike garage, it's more common to have a mix of bikes, rather than 4-5 cruisers from the same company. Not to say it doesn't happen, I'm sure that there's some nutjob out there that owns a Sportster, Wide Glide, Road King and a FLXLOLBRBLGBTQ+ but it's not as common as someone who owns a R6, Vulcan and a 890 Adventure R.

The lack of diversification in Harley's lineup is both confusing from an outsider's perspective, and also detrimental to financial growth, as they don't have anything else to offer an existing Harley owner besides T-shirts and coffee mugs.
 
Plus, most manufacturers have one or two sportbikes in their lineup. As well as one or two cruisers. And maybe a few dirtbikes, standards, ADVs, etc.

Harley has cruisers. And more cruisers. And wait... more cruisers...

In a multi-bike garage, it's more common to have a mix of bikes, rather than 4-5 cruisers from the same company. Not to say it doesn't happen, I'm sure, some nutjob owns a Sportster, Wide Glide, Road King and a FLXLOLBRBLBQT+ but it's not as common as someone who owns a R6, Vulcan and a 890 Adventure R.

The lack of diversification in Harley's lineup is both confusing from an outsider's perspective, and also detrimental to financial growth, as they don't have anything else to offer an existing Harley owner besides T-shirts and mugs.
Just can't help yourself from trolling Harleys. love it :)
 
In the world of music, Harley is metal. Makes no sense to many, can`t explain it to others, despised or hated by some. They are loved by many though, like hardcore metal fans love. Wanna` get an opiniated debate started, more than any other topic?... just mention the name.
Hmmmm.....as a fan(ish) of some Heavy Metal, among other stuff/generes I disagree. When I hear a alphabetsoup glide wallowing past I don't think of Black Sabbath playing Paranoid or Mob Rules. Nor do I think of Iron Maiden and others. And now that I think of it I've never heard an HD go by playing any music I like.

I think of harley as an MC expression of Bob Segar. Some memorable/pretty good stuff, always recognizable but it just ends up seeming like the same old thing over and over.
 
Hmmmm.....as a fan(ish) of some Heavy Metal, among other stuff/generes I disagree. When I hear a alphabetsoup glide wallowing past I don't think of Black Sabbath playing Paranoid or Mob Rules. Nor do I think of Iron Maiden and others. And now that I think of it I've never heard an HD go by playing any music I like.

I think of harley as an MC expression of Bob Segar. Some memorable/pretty good stuff, always recognizable but it just ends up seeming like the same old thing over and over.
Expand your mind a bit,
 
Hmmmm.....as a fan(ish) of some Heavy Metal, among other stuff/generes I disagree. When I hear a alphabetsoup glide wallowing past I don't think of Black Sabbath playing Paranoid or Mob Rules. Nor do I think of Iron Maiden and others. And now that I think of it I've never heard an HD go by playing any music I like.

I think of harley as an MC expression of Bob Segar. Some memorable/pretty good stuff, always recognizable but it just ends up seeming like the same old thing over and over.

Bob Segar is easy on the ears though.
 
In the world of music, Harley is metal. Makes no sense to many, can`t explain it to others, despised or hated by some. They are loved by many though, like hardcore metal fans love. Wanna` get an opiniated debate started, more than any other topic?... just mention the name.
Some people follow religions that have preached the same sermons forever.

Some people buy time shares and vacation in the same place every year.

Some eat the same thing for breakfast and pick the same donut.

Predictable and reliable isn't all bad. They stick by the same beer, same bike and same spouse.
 
Harleys... their popularity used to be mostly driven (ridden?) by Hollywood and motorcycle gangs. The issue is the Millennials and the gen Z missed that wave of influence. Times change and with it, we see a shift in what is cool and what it is not. Perhaps, in the next decade or even sooner we will see AI-embedded motorcycles which never fall/get dropped? I think so. Just 15 years ago, thinking of a wheelie-control on a bike seemed a crazy idea from a far-fetched future...

Personally, it saddens me to see HD stagnating to a halt. That being said, should they decide to resurrect the V-Rod, I would be lining up to get one.
 
should they decide to resurrect the V-Rod, I would be lining up to get one.

YES!

Was just checking FB ads for a 2006 VRSCR.

Just for funsies, though. No garage space left, and there is a laundry list of bikes I'd get before that Harley, but I've always liked the V-Rod and that Street Rod has those higher mid-mount controls. 40° of lean angle! 🤘

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YES!

Was just checking FB ads for a 2006 VRSCR.

Just for funsies, though. No garage space left, and there is a laundry list of bikes I'd get before that Harley, but I've always liked the V-Rod and that Street Rod has those higher mid-mount controls. 40° of lean angle! 🤘

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I see www.robinsonmotorcycle.com in Wheatly has one in stock plus a XR1200 and XL883R. I`ve heard some parts for the V-Rod are becoming hard to source. Still a cool bike however.
 
YES!

Was just checking FB ads for a 2006 VRSCR.

Just for funsies, though. No garage space left, and there is a laundry list of bikes I'd get before that Harley, but I've always liked the V-Rod and that Street Rod has those higher mid-mount controls. 40° of lean angle! 🤘

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I have garage space if you want to leave it at my place :)
When I saw that HD was bringing back the air Sporty I thought for the first time "Hey I wouldn't mind having one of those" for casual rides. Monster 1200S is in line first though if I add another bike.
 
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