New HD CEO has a Plan.............

Where is Cadillac, known for 7 liter V-8 and RWD barges. Also known for chubby bankers with one foot in the grave.

What has been their success on changing that and could HD learn anything about evolution? (Not their evo motor)
 
I like the idea of bringing back the oldschool Sportster. Cars, bikes, etc are getting to the point where adding power/performance isn't beneficial as it can't be used on the roads so the alternative to adding performance is adding character. That's what the air-cooled Sportster offers.
 
Glenn/RZ500 said:
Sport bikes are way more subtle. The now defunct 600`s would evolve year over year with half a kilo lighter,0.9 more HP etc. Sport bike styling is generally similar...but now we have wings too!!
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Plus, most manufacturers have one or two sportbikes in their lineup. As well as one or two cruisers. And maybe a few dirtbikes, standards, ADVs, etc.

Harley has cruisers. And more cruisers. And also... more cruisers...

In a multi-bike garage, it's more common to have a mix of bikes, rather than 4-5 cruisers from the same company. Not to say it doesn't happen, I'm sure that there's some nutjob out there that owns a Sportster, Wide Glide, Road King and a FLXLOLBRBLGBTQ+ but it's not as common as someone who owns a R6, Vulcan and a 890 Adventure R.

The lack of diversification in Harley's lineup is both confusing from an outsider's perspective, and also detrimental to financial growth, as they don't have anything else to offer an existing Harley owner besides T-shirts and coffee mugs.
 
Lightcycle said:
Plus, most manufacturers have one or two sportbikes in their lineup. As well as one or two cruisers. And maybe a few dirtbikes, standards, ADVs, etc.

Harley has cruisers. And more cruisers. And wait... more cruisers...

In a multi-bike garage, it's more common to have a mix of bikes, rather than 4-5 cruisers from the same company. Not to say it doesn't happen, I'm sure, some nutjob owns a Sportster, Wide Glide, Road King and a FLXLOLBRBLBQT+ but it's not as common as someone who owns a R6, Vulcan and a 890 Adventure R.

The lack of diversification in Harley's lineup is both confusing from an outsider's perspective, and also detrimental to financial growth, as they don't have anything else to offer an existing Harley owner besides T-shirts and mugs.
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Just can't help yourself from trolling Harleys. love it :)
 
Glenn/RZ500 said:
In the world of music, Harley is metal. Makes no sense to many, can`t explain it to others, despised or hated by some. They are loved by many though, like hardcore metal fans love. Wanna` get an opiniated debate started, more than any other topic?... just mention the name.
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Hmmmm.....as a fan(ish) of some Heavy Metal, among other stuff/generes I disagree. When I hear a alphabetsoup glide wallowing past I don't think of Black Sabbath playing Paranoid or Mob Rules. Nor do I think of Iron Maiden and others. And now that I think of it I've never heard an HD go by playing any music I like.

I think of harley as an MC expression of Bob Segar. Some memorable/pretty good stuff, always recognizable but it just ends up seeming like the same old thing over and over.
 
xrljoel said:
Hmmmm.....as a fan(ish) of some Heavy Metal, among other stuff/generes I disagree. When I hear a alphabetsoup glide wallowing past I don't think of Black Sabbath playing Paranoid or Mob Rules. Nor do I think of Iron Maiden and others. And now that I think of it I've never heard an HD go by playing any music I like.

I think of harley as an MC expression of Bob Segar. Some memorable/pretty good stuff, always recognizable but it just ends up seeming like the same old thing over and over.
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Expand your mind a bit,
 
xrljoel said:
Hmmmm.....as a fan(ish) of some Heavy Metal, among other stuff/generes I disagree. When I hear a alphabetsoup glide wallowing past I don't think of Black Sabbath playing Paranoid or Mob Rules. Nor do I think of Iron Maiden and others. And now that I think of it I've never heard an HD go by playing any music I like.

I think of harley as an MC expression of Bob Segar. Some memorable/pretty good stuff, always recognizable but it just ends up seeming like the same old thing over and over.
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Bob Segar is easy on the ears though.
 
I once read an article in CC where the author described Harleys "flatulating past my window" . To this day I still think of that when one rolls by.
 
Glenn/RZ500 said:
In the world of music, Harley is metal. Makes no sense to many, can`t explain it to others, despised or hated by some. They are loved by many though, like hardcore metal fans love. Wanna` get an opiniated debate started, more than any other topic?... just mention the name.
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Some people follow religions that have preached the same sermons forever.

Some people buy time shares and vacation in the same place every year.

Some eat the same thing for breakfast and pick the same donut.

Predictable and reliable isn't all bad. They stick by the same beer, same bike and same spouse.
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