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Anyone been on a boat with this ?

We were on a cruise ship in Force 11 gale and the stabilization was very impressive given the size of the waves.
Bringing that down to small craft is impressive.
 
crankcall said:
I remember the conversations about heating the molds . They needed quicker production and using a faster set resin was causing pre cure issues during layup , heating the molds was thrown around . In the end it was decided they knew how to control what they had , what vtyheyb needed was more molds in more facilities to keep the line rolling . Hard to imagine in thier hayday they were cranking out 5 C&C 27s a day , every day, for years . Then they werent .

Sitting in my office beside me is a C&C 50" , 7ft mast. The only RC boats ever built by C&C. Neil Gilbert of C&C made the mold based on the 41 lines. We made a fleet of about 30 boats , I know where 12 are. The mold went to the Great lakes Museum in kingston as part of the C&C display.

Thinking boats are expensive now, and they are. My 29-2 in 1984 was $34,000 , delivered into Oakville from the Niagara on the lake plant. The upgraded "race package" which got you a spinnaker and gear was another $2200. That kind of money bought a townhouse.
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The last I heard was some builders were using prepreg and autoclaves but we're talking aerospace budgets for large hulls. Where do you get a toaster oven big enough to handle a 40 foot long piece of toast?

My concern was getting even heat if the cable spacing was too great. Ripple effect where the finished product has uneven cure times. I had hoped to do a hatch as an experiment.

If Prepreg wasn't such a pita I'd make myself a new deck box lid just for snickers and giggles.
 
They are autoclaving sailboat masts , one hundred and forty ft goes into the tunnel . Never understood how much can be spent on fun sports .
Wild Oats the hundred foot Australian maxi race yacht has been spotted in Newport with newly added foils . I’m told adding foils to that boat was around a million US , but when a new maxi is twelve to fifteen, that just maintenance costs.


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Will most of these expensive toys have the gyro stabilizers built in or added??

Been watching Lobster Fishing in Tasmania and thinking how much safety that stabilization would add.
 
None of these expensive toys get gyro stabilizers , they weigh too much and affect the “go fast” . They are becoming increasingly popular on the hundred foot plus cruising boats , cost are coming down . We looked at basic system for our race committee boat , twenty six ft boat would take a thirty five K system. We decided to send out stronger stomachs on crappy days .


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crankcall said:
Sorry unless you NEED a boat , which is point zero zero zero two percent of the population, yeah it’s silly money .


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Sometimes I price things per pound just for amusement.

A Honda Goldwing costs about the same as a Fireblade. Mid $30k but the blade is half the weight ~450 vs ~850 pounds.

A friend dropped by a while back sporting a new pair of designer eye glasses. Light but not cheap they were close to the price of gold couple of years ago

Gold near $7K, Bitcoin $92K, SPF lumber ~$0.50 /Lb
 
nobbie48 said:
I liked C&C boats but couldn't afford one. I recall comparing them at a boat show ~40 years ago. I took the prices of a 25 and a ~30 footer and divided by the
displacement. The cost per pound was within a few cents.
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I have seen construction jobs quoted a similar way. Instead of a detailed takeoff where you count every square/linear foot of material needed and multiply that out to get the final price, you do it the slow way enough times to come up with a fast way that works. Depending on the trades involved, multiplying square footage or cubic footage by a rate normally gets you really close to the the detailed quote in a tiny fraction of the time (and can be quickly and easily done in your head if you want to get to a rough price during a discussion).
 
Your confusing value vs cost vs perceived value . Rolex tells time , fellow on the highway on a Goldwing gets to the next truck stop about the same time as the guy on a CBsomething , couple in a Tanzer sailboat are enjoying the same waves and wind I am on a C&C .


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MacDoc said:
Anyone been on a boat with this ?

We were on a cruise ship in Force 11 gale and the stabilization was very impressive given the size of the waves.
Bringing that down to small craft is impressive.
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I know of them. I don't think I have been on a boat that had them. The seakeeper price tag could cover a decent boat (>$25K). Like motorcycles, adding hundreds of pounds has some downsides.
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