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I have owned several boats over the last 35 yrs and currently have a 16 ft fishing boat with a single console ( great boat). I sold a 19 ft thundercraft last yr to thin the fleet ( i had 2 boats at the same time ). So here I am now in the market for a 18-19 ish ft fishing rig with a dual console and full top ( so the bride is more comfortable when we go cruising), preferably with a 115 hp 4 stroke. I just about **** my pants at the price. I could buy a nice car for that money. How the heck can manufacturers justify north of 50+ grand for a piece of aluminum with a steering wheel, NO Adaptive cruise, no emergency braking, no self park and a fuckin $17.000 outboard etc. I just can't wrap my head around that. OK so I'm old school and I realize prices have gone up but OMG this is out of hand. WTF am I missing. Im going to the sportsman show in March to kick tires but I'm sure I'm going home empty handed ✋️ and dont get me going regarding the price of optional insurance for those things.( insurance is not mandatory for most watercraft , depending on size) I take it out once a week and there no traffic....WTF.
 
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I was at the boat show with a playmate looking for a pontoon boat for his cottage , one fifteen Yamaha , Avro brand boat , nineteen ft , upgraded upholstery package and your at sixty five k on a trailer . On sale .
Bought this week for our sailing school a twenty hp on a side console RIB , ten ft @ seventeen K . Not even a hypalon boat , pvc special.
Wife and I have talked about ditching our older thirty ft sail for a thirty five ish boat , but somewhere in the middle I’d need eighty grand . Ouch


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Sorry unless you NEED a boat , which is point zero zero zero two percent of the population, yeah it’s silly money .


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Perhaps that is the reason for the increased prices. Less buyers results in higher prices, higher prices means less buyers and so on. I'm not a boat guy but in other markets it the same very steep price increases no notable reason.
 
High prices create opportunity for new entrants. Boats can be sophisticated machines… but the don’t have to be.

Perhaps this will inspire more economical builders to get going.
 

boat. noun​

ˈbōt

plural boats
Synonyms of boat
a
: a small vessel for travel on water
b
: a hole in the water you throw money into
 
crankcall said:
Sorry unless you NEED a boat , which is point zero zero zero two percent of the population, yeah it’s silly money .


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Well it's guess I'm in that .0002% of the population.
A boat is a must have for us being on the water and all.
 
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In the mid 1970s we bought a 4.5 HP kicker for a 17 foot sailboat for $400. A 9.9 was $1000. Now they're three times that.

The offshore crowd seems to have been directed to outboards at over $100,000 each with clusters of up to five hanging off the transom. With all their money tied up in motors there isn't much left to buy fabric for bikinis.

Ugly IMO but in the case of cruisers in particular, the OB is more serviceable. An inboard cruiser sometimes gets the motor removed by cutting the side of the boat out or major disassembly.
 
Mad Mike said:
High prices create opportunity for new entrants. Boats can be sophisticated machines… but the don’t have to be.

Perhaps this will inspire more economical builders to get going.
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My info may be outdated but decades ago a fiberglass hull and deck only represented 25% of the cost of a boat. Few, if any builders, make their own fittings or engines etc.

OEMs get good pricing so one-off builders get hammered. DIY types buy donor boats to take the edge off the markups.

I don't know how JIT affects prices. Before JIT warehouses had stock and if there was a downturn in the market manufacturers would have fire sales. With JIT the goods aren't produced without a P.O. commitment.
 
Lots of deals to be had on the used market these days in that segment as folks try to offload Covid follies. Anyone buying new is nuts, as the new prices haven't self-corrected as much as used from the crazy days of 2020-2022.

What boggles my mind is the number of super-sized day boats out there that sell for north of $250k. If I'm dropping the equivalent spend of a house on a boat, I want to at least be able to sleep on the damn thing.

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Wife and I have talked about ditching our older thirty ft sail for a thirty five ish boat , but somewhere in the middle I’d need eighty grand . Ouch
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For a good bit less than that, I always liked the original CS 36 as a nice blend of liveable cruiser, super durable design, with a splash of upwind performance to elevate it above the bluewater full-keel tugboats. C&C gets you more performance, but not quite as rugged of a design...
 
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