Motorcycles on HOV lanes

[fastar1]

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I caught the typo, because of your phrasing, and was confirming for you that it's a bad angle. Emissions are definitely worse for bikes, based on the more lax controls. Definitely in agreement.

CO2 emissions are lower on bikes as that generally follows fuel consumption, so there could be a potential case made there. But yeah, other emissions are higher simply because the emissions control systems aren't as strictly regulated as they are on cars.

 

[Rob MacLennan]

By the way if anyone wants to start up a petition, about allowing motorcycles in HOV lanes, don't use an online one.

http://www.ontla.on.ca/web/go2.jsp?...&menuItem=getting_involved_petition&locale=en

These were a waste of time, if they were intended for submission:

http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/motorcycles-in-ontario-hov.html

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/occ/

Based on past performance, Facebook might have slightly more luck. It still isn't a valid submission to The Legislative Assembly though.

 

[fastar1]

I think the problem might be that congestion is broadly seen as a municipal issue rather than a provicial one, so Parliament doesn't have any public pressure to act.

 

[Jayv]

Rob the only way to get the attention of the public would be to do a protest ride.

You would need the Harley and Goldwing crowd to participate as well.

No one is going to give two ***** about some crotch rocket riders complaining about Hov lanes.

 

[matthew]

I don't feel any safer when I'm riding in a HOV lane. I'm constantly worried that some loogan will pull into the HOV lane moving at 80 km/h from his lane moving at 30 km/h and introduce me to his rear window.

 

[Rob MacLennan]

Rob the only way to get the attention of the public would be to do a protest ride.

You would need the Harley and Goldwing crowd to participate as well.

No one is going to give two ***** about some crotch rocket riders complaining about Hov lanes.

Tough to arrange. I've been there and you won't find me getting involved in organizing another protest ride, in my lifetime.

I thought that I would add this in. It's a copy of one of the responses I received, from MTO.

 

[OpenGambit]

Do you have one since Toronto said it was cool?

 

[Rob MacLennan]

Do you have one since Toronto said it was cool?

I don't have a cop y of it, I don't think, but one (of many) folllow-up letters that used much of the logic used in the Toronto decision, plus naming a very large number of jurisdictions that permit this, resulted in a response that the HOV lanes were a "made in Ontario solution, informed by much research", or words to that effect. No real time was taken to refute my statements.

 

[OpenGambit]

I don't have a cop y of it, I don't think, but one (of many) folllow-up letters that used much of the logic used in the Toronto decision, plus naming a very large number of jurisdictions that permit this, resulted in a response that the HOV lanes were a "made in Ontario solution, informed by much research", or words to that effect. No real time was taken to refute my statements.

I am going to write them a letter saying that as a "have not" province, Ontario should be more accomdating. lol

 

[revrandy]

I don't feel any safer when I'm riding in a HOV lane. I'm constantly worried that some loogan will pull into the HOV lane moving at 80 km/h from his lane moving at 30 km/h and introduce me to his rear window.

The HOV lanes in California allow motorcycles. I have to agree with your sentiment, many times you do not feel safer riding in them. When the speed differential is huge, I find myself hyper-vigilant about cars in the regular lane crossing into the HOV lanes, even though they are crossing a double solid. As a general rule, when the regular traffic is stopped or moving very slow, I don't let her rip in the HOV lane and reduce speed accordingly just to accomodate the idiots who can and will cut in front of you.

 

[rx_se7en]

I agree!

I travel on the 404 and think it would be very practical and efficient for motorcycles to use HOV lanes without passengers. It doesn't make sense for a motorcycle to stand in traffic and IMO it is more risky riding in stop & go traffic where cars make frequent lane changes...

Any thoughts on how we can get this exemption for motorcycles? The city of Toronto HOV lanes allow this and it makes the commute far more safer and efficient.

 

[gtm]

My only experiences with HOV lanes entail soccer moms doing 110 while everyone blows by in the fast lane. The worst part is you can only enter and exit them at certain points and when you roll up behind one of these slow pokes you're literally trapped.

And when they end.. they only serve as a congestion additive.

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