Law Enforcement - The Good, The Bad, The Ugly.....

Who was in the wrong?

  • Cop

    Votes: 23 20.2%
  • Dude who got shot

    Votes: 33 28.9%
  • I like turtles

    Votes: 58 50.9%

  • Total voters
    114
That would also require that the courts and prisons get more funding to expand their size, but that doesn't seem to be coming anytime soon.
I spent over 35 years "on the inside"... Or is it "in the inside"?
One thing I'll say is that is no meaningful programming offered/available.
Oh there used to be, but as time went on it all went away. These days it's just about trying to keep a lid on things , usually with both hands tied behind your back by some bs policy written by some book-learned kid who has never stepped into a jail.
 
I spent over 35 years "on the inside"... Or is it "in the inside"?
One thing I'll say is that is no meaningful programming offered/available.
Oh there used to be, but as time went on it all went away. These days it's just about trying to keep a lid on things , usually with both hands tied behind your back by some bs policy written by some book-learned kid who has never stepped into a jail.

IMO you've nailed the problem. You've pointed out that almost everything in our legal system is written by basically honest people or at least to cater to honest people.

It's like the physical difference between a man's input in child birth vs a woman's. Five minutes for the guy but nine months for the gal. Nine months of hormones, weight gain, moods, needs, wardrobe and restrictions. The guy zips up his pants. It isn't the same.

Then there's the nature vs nurture argument and things are going to get worse. Read up on childhood emotional neglect and the adult consequences.

Parents take the kid for a run in the stroller but spend their time on their cell phones rather than emotionally bonding with their kid.

The list goes on psychologically. Kids grow up hearing or sensing financial friction between parents. The Rocking Horse Winner is no longer fiction.

Striking the right balance is hard. Too much money and you're elitist. Too little and you're a loser. Civil disobedience protests, how many millionaires do you see trashing the streets?

We're screwed.
 
I spent over 35 years "on the inside"... Or is it "in the inside"?
One thing I'll say is that is no meaningful programming offered/available.
Oh there used to be, but as time went on it all went away. These days it's just about trying to keep a lid on things , usually with both hands tied behind your back by some bs policy written by some book-learned kid who has never stepped into a jail.
Overcrowding due to underfunding.
 
Overcrowding due to underfunding.
No.
Over crowding due to the continuing decline of society.
So many people are so emotionally stunted and childish, as adults they still behave selfishly with no regard for others.
That and the stat driven nature of modern policing.
The number of low hanging fruit criminals in custody is remarkable. They're dumb and easy to catch...Lol.
 

Ten year old case.

Was he on paid leave?

That could be over $1,000,000.

I, to a degree, understand PTSD. Everyone with it reacts differently so it can be unpredictable. If PTSD is a genuine factor in his case why did his superior officer return him to full duty?

Maybe we have to look further up the chain of command.
 

Ten year old case.

Was he on paid leave?

That could be over $1,000,000.

I, to a degree, understand PTSD. Everyone with it reacts differently so it can be unpredictable. If PTSD is a genuine factor in his case why did his superior officer return him to full duty?

Maybe we have to look further up the chain of command.
IF the PTSD was "undiagnosed", then higher-ups wouldn't have been on notice.

My objection is to the, "If he were to remain an officer the damage to reputation..." comment. He's been an officer for 10 years after this incident. That doesn't already bring the service into disrtepute?
 

Ten year old case.

Was he on paid leave?

That could be over $1,000,000.

I, to a degree, understand PTSD. Everyone with it reacts differently so it can be unpredictable. If PTSD is a genuine factor in his case why did his superior officer return him to full duty?

Maybe we have to look further up the chain of command.
He wasn’t returned to duty, he was convicted of criminal assault in 2022 and forced to resign. He triggered an appeal that took another 4 years to conclude the same.

He was paid $1.1m while on leave for 10 years. Now he can probably retire on a $95k/year pension when he hits 60.

The police services act should offer reasonable protections however the accumulated benefits should be clawed back if the officer is dismissed for their conduct.
 
The police services act should offer reasonable protections however the accumulated benefits should be clawed back if the officer is dismissed for their conduct.
I don't know that would be possible as that money could have long since been spent on general life, or diverted somehow. You could punitively make the former officer bankrupt, but that really doesn't do anything.

What could be done is the former officer's pension could be forfeit, due to criminal action. That should certainly be done. No matter how long you've been "a good cop", one illegal action can certainly screw the rest of your life.
 
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