Law Enforcement - The Good, The Bad, The Ugly.....

Who was in the wrong?

  • Cop

    Votes: 23 20.4%
  • Dude who got shot

    Votes: 33 29.2%
  • I like turtles

    Votes: 57 50.4%

  • Total voters
    113
Here as well. A coworker's cousin was IMO murdered in the Kingston area a number of decades ago.

Late at night and he may have rolled a stop sign then pulled up his driveway. An OPP cruiser pulled in behind him and shot him when he got out of the car.

No witnesses and an OPP investigation found something nearby that could have looked like a weapon. Done deal. Officer cleared, ignoring that the particular officer un-holstered his sidearm ten times the average.

Cousin was known for being a wimp.
Wow. Made me think of the scene in "Casino" where the cops gunned down Frank "Blue" Bluestein. He got out of his car holding a foil wrapped Hero sandwich the cop thought was a gun..an actual story. F`n crazy.
 
FYI coming to the airport Jan12,

Going forward when ever peel region responds to an issue one will be armed with a long rifle,

This is not an increase in security but simply a change in appearance
 
I don't know what the hiring screening is like but assume it's got a roid rage / intimidation component.

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Almost 100% fault goes to police. They created the situation, they escalated the situation. The driver gets a small amount of blame as if she stopped, she probably (but not certainly) would not have been shot. LE just has to say they feared for their safety to get a free pass. Until that phrase becomes a career-ending move, it will be used in every investigation.
ICE agents aren't police and the scope of their duties is rather narrow. Before this godawful regime they would generally work WITH police, when performing actions away from the borders. Now they're being used like a private army.
 
SIU same same but different. Manager said after a police shooting "he was a black drug dealer who had it coming". In labour hearing to discuss case, SIU witness fails to show up dragging the case out further. Keep the cloak of silence over the whole thing. Never let light shine on truth. The official excuse is they were "sick".

 
Him backing up like that and the possibility of him sliding down the snowbank onto him if he went forward put the officer's life in danger. FAFO situation, and he FO.
 
SIU same same but different. Manager said after a police shooting "he was a black drug dealer who had it coming". In labour hearing to discuss case, SIU witness fails to show up dragging the case out further. Keep the cloak of silence over the whole thing. Never let light shine on truth. The official excuse is they were "sick".

The incident, itself, doesn't appear to be race based. Public urination can be charged as public indecency and people have actually ended up on the sex offender registry for it. In this case the officer actually was justifiably in fear for his safety. The SIU member, on the other hand, should be walked out the door if the allegations prove to be true. That's a separate issue.
 
One charge will get dropped. The other will go forward, have an undotted T or uncrossed I discovered by the defence lawyer, and will get thrown out. Standard YRP modus operandi when one of their officers' DUI event is so egregious (multiple vehicles or property damage) that they are forced to charge him/her.
 
Charged with dui and over 80 while on duty. Suspended with pay. Psa needs to change.

A lot of the comments are supportive to the cop. It can be a S*** job.

If the DUI is due to job stress alcoholism, the superiors need to address the problem in a long term constructive manner. Unfortunately a lot of the senior staff are hard a** types preaching "If I could handle it so can you."

Of course the superiors never want to admit that issues rise on their watches.

If the LEO was just tipsy coming back from a birthday party it's a different matter.

Charges such as theft, assault and accepting bribes are not negotiable.
 
If the DUI is due to job stress alcoholism, the superiors need to address the problem in a long term constructive manner. Unfortunately a lot of the senior staff are hard a** types preaching "If I could handle it so can you."
Why should they be given any leniency, when your average person would be saddled with a criminal record, massive expenses, possible jail time and a future of restricted travel?
 
Why should they be given any leniency, when your average person would be saddled with a criminal record, massive expenses, possible jail time and a future of restricted travel?
Exactly. Lots of people have tough jobs. As a minimum, he should be fired and a firearm prohibition for bad choices. Imagine if cops found a normal citizen dui with a firearm? They would have a field day of press releases and finger wagging.
 
Why should they be given any leniency, when your average person would be saddled with a criminal record, massive expenses, possible jail time and a future of restricted travel?
I knew an alcoholic and job stress was his Achilles heel. When he got promoted into management he fell apart.

Everyone's brain is wired differently and it may be necessary to triage the situation. Some cops can handle the situations, some need help to handle the situations and some need a different career.

Unfortunately it's hard to tell which group a person belongs in until they are stressed to the max.

Stress: Consoling an injured child while not shooting the person that injured them.
 
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