I see your point (don't know how to quantify it), but there are lots of examples where the cops are 'caught' doing bad things and placed on paid leave for years....Given that police are often accused of criminal acts as a method of retaliation, I think that #2 is a non starter. ...
They're sure not saying much about it. I wonder what they're trying to hide. That would be a fun plinker for the back 40!They found the rifle.
I am not sure what they are covering up. I think we know? It also would be Copexplaining.They're sure not saying much about it. I wonder what they're trying to hide. That would be a fun plinker for the back 40!
Maybe what they are trying to hide, or at least downplay, is there are a bunch of police cars out there with a Colt C8, and ammunition, in the trunk... whole bunch of other cool cop stuff too. (Don't tell anyone... but the radio is what you want. The encryption and signal hopping algorithm would be worth big bucks if you could find the right buyer).I wonder what they're trying to hide.
All of the radios are registered now. Should be easy enough for dispatch to kill the ability of a stolen radio to access the network.Maybe what they are trying to hide, or at least downplay, is there are a bunch of police cars out there with a Colt C8, and ammunition, in the trunk... whole bunch of other cool cop stuff too. (Don't tell anyone... but the radio is what you want. The encryption and signal hopping algorithm would be worth big bucks if you could find the right buyer).
Don't suspend without pay prior to psa adjudication. Get that done asap. Feel free to put a blackout on the outcome until after the criminal trial is complete. You shouldn't have to be put in jail to be fired from a job.If you suspend a cop without pay, when the cop comes up in court for the charge, the defense will argue that suspending them without pay has prejudiced the outcome of the trial, that the police "brass" thought the subject was guilty before the trial, that the police "brass" was assigning punishment before the trial, when the officer was supposed to be assumed to be innocent... which would get the charges dropped.
Yeah but you have to be fired by a boss and what if the boss is a bigger crook?Don't suspend without pay prior to psa adjudication. Get that done asap. Feel free to put a blackout on the outcome until after the criminal trial is complete. You shouldn't have to be put in jail to be fired from a job.
If PSA adjudicator are criminals, they should be tried and locked up for a long time in real jail.Yeah but you have to be fired by a boss and what if the boss is a bigger crook?
Ont the bright side i think those are manufactured in London Ont.
They previously sported mini 14's a cheap and cheerful piece but i would not want to bet my life on one cycling properly in a life and death situation.
Maybe what they are trying to hide, or at least downplay, is there are a bunch of police cars out there with a Colt C8, and ammunition, in the trunk... whole bunch of other cool cop stuff too. (Don't tell anyone... but the radio is what you want. The encryption and signal hopping algorithm would be worth big bucks if you could find the right buyer).
If you suspend a cop without pay, when the cop comes up in court for the charge, the defense will argue that suspending them without pay has prejudiced the outcome of the trial, that the police "brass" thought the subject was guilty before the trial, that the police "brass" was assigning punishment before the trial, when the officer was supposed to be assumed to be innocent... which would get the charges dropped.
Well, they'd be able to report until an appeal was heard and denied. A finding of guilt isn't necessarily the end of it.If you're talking about criminal court.. that doesn't sound right!?
The suspended with pay until criminal court is over.. is a psa and union contract thing.. it has no relation to criminal or civil proceedings.
More likely the other way around... suspend or fire a cop before the criminal trial.. and they're found not guilty in the courts.. the union would use that to overturn to internal outcome.. they'd go after a lot more than backpay.. because the cop would/could lose everything during it all... etc.
Would a cop that is remanded in custody until a criminal trial.. still be suspended with pay until after the trial?
I think they can fire immediately when a cop is sentenced to jail.. because they can't report for duty.. The same would be true if they were remanded in custody while awaiting their trial??
Metro Toronto police have many, many radio frequencies. The "general" dispatch for each division is open and public... which is what the tow truck drivers listen to. The radios have a function where they can switch to an encrypted frequency, that automatically changes frequency, that is impossible to monitor... unless you know the hopping algorithm and have the encryption hash.Pretty sure all of the tow truck guys still have access to police radio somehow.
The bar for legitimate termination can not and should not be anything to do with a criminal conviction. Balance of probability is good enough for every other employer in the world, it should be the same bar for the police. Terminated cops are free to sue in civil court where balance of probability remains the bar. Assuming the process was done well initially, it should stand up in court. After the union lost a few dozen cases in court and had to pay costs, they would stop automatically protecting every dirtbag member and focus on the ones that may have a case.More likely the other way around... suspend or fire a cop before the criminal trial.. and they're found not guilty in the courts.. the union would use that to overturn to internal outcome.. they'd go after a lot more than backpay.. because the cop would/could lose everything during it all... etc.
If a cop is charged with a criminal offense, they are not automatically suspended. They are supposed to be assigned "desk" duties. There are always LOTS of cops on desk duties.Would a cop that is remanded in custody until a criminal trial..
The bar for legitimate termination can not and should not be anything to do with a criminal conviction. Balance of probability is good enough for every other employer in the world, it should be the same bar for the police. Terminated cops are free to sue in civil court where balance of probability remains the bar. Assuming the process was done well initially, it should stand up in court. After the union lost a few dozen cases in court and had to pay costs, they would stop automatically protecting every dirtbag member and focus on the ones that may have a case.