We'd need to see how many ems violence related calls come in a year and the response of police to those.
Then start asking why why why why why.
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Law Enforcement - The Good, The Bad, The Ugly.....
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Then start asking why why why why why.
Mad Mike
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I understand your point, however it's not only police. I'd argue a corrections officer faces considerably more risk than a cop, yet they max out at less than 60% of what a cop makes.
You only need grade 12 education to be a cop. My riding buddy's kid just got hired onto a rural force at a starting base salary of $70K (which hits closer to $85K with mandatory stat day work and OT), 4 weeks holidays, 4 day 35 hour work week. 12 bankable sickdays and a gold plated benefit+pension plan that will see the kid with a full pension on her 53rd birthday.
Sometimes I wish I had taken that route.
Leamington is terminating their OPP contract. They pay over 5M per year (18% of tax base) and OPP refuses to tell them how many officers are working.Thats a fairly big fire from the hip assessment. Wheres the data?
Leamington Council Votes to Terminate Contract with OPP
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Good!Leamington is terminating their OPP contract. They pay over 5M per year (18% of tax base) and OPP refuses to tell them how many officers are working.
Leamington Council Votes to Terminate Contract with OPP
Leamington is terminating their OPP contract. They pay over 5M per year (18% of tax base) and OPP refuses to tell them how many officers are working.
Leamington Council Votes to Terminate Contract with OPP
OPP dirty to the core,
some think they are still above the law
If you believe it and it happens did you think it or was it reality?
Wow. Here is the original article on his charges. He went to somebodies house to threaten them over a debt wearing his uniform and gun. It is beyond embarrassing that he is still on the payroll.
Leamington is terminating their OPP contract. They pay over 5M per year (18% of tax base) and OPP refuses to tell them how many officers are working.
Leamington Council Votes to Terminate Contract with OPP
This has nothing to due with recent events... There are numerous towns, municipalities that have issues with OPP and are looking at not renewing the contracts.
I agree. This is just a push back against the cost of policing relative to the level of service. It sounds like it has nothing to do with any concerns about racism or excessive use of force.
For sure. My cousin just started last year in the YRP, pay is crazy. Started lower at ~60k 4 days on 4 days off but they do 10 hour shifts. Mandatory $10k raise a year with a cap at $100k that gets raised if you specialize or go up in rank. He didn't start as high but will probably do over 100k first year from all the paid duty on the side. 4 days, off you just work 2 days and take 2 days off like regular.
Is that the one where they also whacked her pension or a new story? The thin blue line is very thick and it will be hard to penetrate.
Yeah looks like
Another article on the complete waste of money that is the SIU. They barely even pretend that they are relevant anymore.
www.cp24.com
On April 6, Campbell’s family called Peel Regional Police to their home, as they had done many times in the past, because the 26-year-old was experiencing a mental health crisis.
Campbell’s sister, Michelle, told CP24 her brother had already been hit twice with a stun gun and brought down to the floor before he was shot.
“The subject officer was invited for an interview, but he has not yet submitted to the interview nor has he provided his notes,” The SIU said in a statement Thursday.
Ontario law does not compel the subject police officer in an SIU investigation to submit to an interview or hand over their notes.
Officer accused of fatally shooting Black man in crisis in Brampton not yet interviewed by SIU
The province’s police watchdog says it has not yet been able to interview the Peel Regional Police officer who allegedly shot and killed D’Andre Campbell inside his Brampton home last April, nor have they been able to obtain his notes about the incident.
www.cp24.com
On April 6, Campbell’s family called Peel Regional Police to their home, as they had done many times in the past, because the 26-year-old was experiencing a mental health crisis.
Campbell’s sister, Michelle, told CP24 her brother had already been hit twice with a stun gun and brought down to the floor before he was shot.
“The subject officer was invited for an interview, but he has not yet submitted to the interview nor has he provided his notes,” The SIU said in a statement Thursday.
Ontario law does not compel the subject police officer in an SIU investigation to submit to an interview or hand over their notes.
To be fair, they dont make the rules.Another article on the complete waste of money that is the SIU. They barely even pretend that they are relevant anymore.
Officer accused of fatally shooting Black man in crisis in Brampton not yet interviewed by SIU
The province’s police watchdog says it has not yet been able to interview the Peel Regional Police officer who allegedly shot and killed D’Andre Campbell inside his Brampton home last April, nor have they been able to obtain his notes about the incident.
On April 6, Campbell’s family called Peel Regional Police to their home, as they had done many times in the past, because the 26-year-old was experiencing a mental health crisis.
Campbell’s sister, Michelle, told CP24 her brother had already been hit twice with a stun gun and brought down to the floor before he was shot.
“The subject officer was invited for an interview, but he has not yet submitted to the interview nor has he provided his notes,” The SIU said in a statement Thursday.
Ontario law does not compel the subject police officer in an SIU investigation to submit to an interview or hand over their notes.
As I recall a former director complained constantly about how tied his hands were on the interview process.
I agree, ultimately they are hamstrung the same as the police by laws and a justice system that are broken above them.
Mad Mike
Well-known member
I suspect the outcome of all this will be increased transparency, particularly into violent and illegal activities. Hopefully the thick blue line that protects bad cops will be thinned out, making it easier for chiefs to remove bad cops from the ranks.
You can’t become a cop if you have a record, should be you can’t stay a cop if you have a record.
You can’t become a cop if you have a record, should be you can’t stay a cop if you have a record.
I'd argue the bar should be much lower than that. I still think a great early step is to allow police services act charges to be dealt with expeditiously with no regard for a potential parallel criminal charge.
And the whole system of complaints and investigations concerning police officers, or police forces, needs to be completely independent of the police, and beyond that, it needs to be seen as being completely independent of the police. No one who has ever been a police officer should be in a voting or decision-making position on these.
Right now, if you file a complaint against a police officer, the local department investigates it ... I suspect, by investigating your complaint into the circular file. The SIU is still seen as police investigating themselves. And they're hamstrung, at that.
Right now, if you file a complaint against a police officer, the local department investigates it ... I suspect, by investigating your complaint into the circular file. The SIU is still seen as police investigating themselves. And they're hamstrung, at that.
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